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[–] Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While in general the comparison is true, in the specific case of the Kirk circlejerk, people specifically were told to leave their shit outside the venue and TP paid for the cleanup.

[–] polle@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Even if being told, who drops their trash on the streets?

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Animals. That trash is how their brains must be.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Realistically it was similar in the BLM protests of 2020.

While Trump & Fox were telling demented grandmas that black people were burning entire cities to the ground, the reality was very tame.

Only real disruptions came from police provoking and illegally attacking protestors.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I literally watched a cop throw a blast ball in 2020 and then subsequently use their own actions to declare a riot

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They think they are better than other people. They don't see others as worthy of their consideration. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?” - advisor to the President Stephen Miller

Ah, you're describing Moral licensing, and that's entirely plausible.

In this case it's "Littering is bad, but there's no trash cans here and I'm a generally good person so, just this once."

Except I suspect that "once" is really "every so often."

"Can't someone else do it?" - Homer Simpson

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I always thought it was "it's just one can/bag/bottle" when its clean, "it's full of trash, one more won't make a difference"

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago

I dont agree with leaving the trash there, but I understand it. It would have been confusing with all the trash already gathering there.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I believe Hillary said it best. Deplorables.

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[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 139 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Conservatives think destroying the community is a flex.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

conservatives think anything is a flex as long as they can CO-OPT it into thier realm, they dont have a single belief they hold on to, and quite fickle, today its bad bunny, tommorow, its something else.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

You can tell who lives there.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

MAGA is white trash. …And pick me trash. To be fair. I wish we could just split the country at this point. Irreconcilable differences.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wish we could just split the country at this point.

Literally what the controlling donor-class want more than anything.

The more we're divided, the less chance we have of making unified actions against corporate power and capital.

Do you think they will stop at left-versus-right? Why do you think there's so much infighting within left and right groups? Agitators are already in our midst driving up contention with rage-bait politics and they amplify the worst positions on both sides of every issue. They want every single American to be alone, inside their home, browsing a shopping feed.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Well most of project 2025 has been implemented so unless we do something soon we are trapped in a christofacist oligarchy for the foreseeable future. The cage is closing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Most conservatives don't actually want the outcomes from Project 2025 either, they're just WWE fans cheering for their side, they would switch in a heartbeat if the narrative changed, or if they started getting hurt by the policies that will strip them of healthcare, benefits and wages, and most importantly, vices.

They are not capable of looking down the road at what their choices will lead to, their minds don't even work that way and we can't make them work that way no matter how bad we wish they would get smarter or listen to reason and logic.

We have to understand that conservatives broadly are not some overpowered force trying to crush us all, they're just our population's segment of armed toddlers. They think 2-dimensionally, they don't reason or use logic, they react to feelings and stories. We could absolutely take advantage of this and take them back, we could run this whole show if we understood that preaching to them about moral inconsistency or empathy or ideology is never going to work, that they only respond to what they immediately see and feel. The right has been very good about supplying them with these WWE stories with heroes and villains, meanwhile the left is STILL using the same rhetoric and lecturing thinking it will make a dent.

We could change the course of this country if we all got a lot more social, a lot more emotionally intelligent, and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we've been taught to fear and hate.

I know because I was raised conservative, I know how they think and feel and I have changed a good number of people with patience and emotional engagement.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree. And it goes the other way too. All the posturing by ICE and the AI-generated ragebait from the whitehouse, all just screams "what would I hate." They're making really bad moves, unable to understand how others think, feel, or make decisions. We could double-reverse-uno this situation and ask ourselves "what would they think we think?" It could change everything.

and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we’ve been taught to fear and hate.

I think we're all in more trouble with that than we may realize.

I encountered an instigator on Saturday. I found myself catapulted into a cyclone of rage all because of what he chose to wear: all pro-trump gear. Not because of what he was doing, which was next to nothing, nor what he was saying which was honestly not all that rage-inducing. I couldn't think, I couldn't engage creatively, I couldn't demonstrate effectively, my empathy went right out the window. I just stood there, fuming and stun-locked. And that was one guy. It's not like me, and I didn't used to be like this.

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[–] Hellotypewriter@retrolemmy.com 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my town you couldn’t even tell there had been a protest there minutes after.

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[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Maybe liberals care more about their community"

Im sorry, im so fuvking confused.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's just meme tier bullshit. Conservatives played this game for decades with every liberal protest imaginable.

Random out of context imagines with captions about the identity group being insincere because trash

Ah, I thank you for clarity

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Allegedly true of country music fans too. That Venn diagram isn’t quite a circle, but it’s close.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Death Metal fans are percieved as incredibly violent, but actually are usually super nice.......unless you give them a reason to get super violent. Then they're super violent.

But after they get done lynching you, they'll stop for coffee and tea and discuss politics and comunity news.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you know that all on no kings protestors are liberals?

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I would like to think it was only ~50%

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The march didn't go to central ave but yes there were clean up crews

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah fake pics.

Fuck Trump though.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the middle of watching the Some More News episode about Stephen Miller, and it's the first thing I thought of seeing the post

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