If you remember when this happened, his parents were in interviews trying to turn it into a "This is how the libs come for your guns!" situation. The kid was also reported to have said he hoped "Biden gets impeached due to my shooting". He was 15 at the time of the shooting.
This is a prime example of people being radicalized by the rhetoric from right-wingers. The parents first, then they brainwashed this kid into thinking he'd somehow be a hero for doing this. Sad all around.
Kid was basically crying out, saying he had violent thoughts. Dumb parents thought the better idea was to get him a gun and let him shoot at targets "to vent his anger."
Meanwhile they continue neglecting him, leaving him home alone all the time so the deadbeats can go to the bar and drink all day and night.
Meanwhile the kid is bullied relentlessly at school. I don't condone what he did but it's a miserable existence. Unfortunately whether it's based on personal experiences or genetics the harsh reality is some people turn to either suicide or homicide when there is no other hope left and their world stability had completely shattered for years and no end in sight.
Everything the right says is projection of past deeds or intent.
The whole grooming thing is just a projection of them doing their best to radicalize their own kids and doing their darnest to infest the school and other systems to further groom and indoctrinate their kids into radical racist pieces of shit.
Good to know that the idiot parents are being charged too, and awaiting sentencing in jail: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/10/03/james-jennifer-crumbley-appeal-rejected-oxford-school-shooting/71044203007/
About time these people are held accountable for their actions.
Now do the parents.
They are also being charged, and already sitting in jail: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/10/03/james-jennifer-crumbley-appeal-rejected-oxford-school-shooting/71044203007/
His stupid fucking parents are MAGAts, too. Figures.
Wait, life? For a 15 year old?
He's not 15 anymore and in his time in custody he has not really shown any remorse. Until the last minute when he begged for the harshest punishment .The kid was broken by his parents, the parents need life sentences too.
I feel like there's a contradiction between right to a speedy trial, and the judicial system going so slowly that you're now convicted as an adult despite when the crime occurred being years prior.
He's not sentenced to life based on his current age. He's still not an adult anyway. Most (all?) states allow minors above a certain age to be tried and sentenced as adults in extreme circumstances, and 15 isn't considered too young here.
I think the lack of parole option is horrible in this case, but then again US prisons don't really focus on rehabilitation either so I'm not sure he'd have much chance anyway. Still horribly sad all around.
Not sure what you're saying in the first paragraph. In one respect you say he wasn't tried as an adult when he was if I read correctly, and yet if he was tried as an adult, it seems you're saying it wouldn't or shouldn't matter.
I tend to disagree that 15 is old enough. 15 is flatly a child. The brain is physiologically far from full development. That we whimsically throw aside our own laws on trying children or adults based on how vengeful we're feeling on a given day astounds me.
I'm not the only one: https://www.sentencingproject.org/policy-brief/juvenile-life-without-parole-an-overview/
The United States stands alone as the only nation that sentences people to life without parole for crimes committed before turning 18. This briefing paper reviews the Supreme Court precedents that limit the use of juvenile life without parole (JLWOP) and the challenges that remain to its abolition.
He points out that the perpetrator is:
-No longer 15
-Still a minor
-Tried an adult, which many states allow
Wait, life? For a 15 year old?
Life sentence for killing 4 people.
He also was found guilty on the terrorism charge.
Technically he was given 4 life sentences, one for each victim.
Not every judicial system is built on retaliation. Some are built on rehabilitation and a secure society.
What should be the appropriate sentence for multiple killings?
For a 15 year old? Obviously the judge and jury have a fuller picture than I, and I agree with the parents of the victims that their children got unwarranted death sentences. But I do believe making parole possible in 30+ years would be appropriate, just given his age and opportunity to develop his brain to full maturity, and hopefully learn empathy and remorse.
Disgust for the crime is one thing, but that's beside the point.
I don't mind that people disagree, but I feel like his Life Sentence Without Parole was, indeed, justified. I get that he was young at the time of the crime and he was begging for help he wasn't getting. That does not excuse the crime, nor does it make the crime any less of a crime.
I also feel that, maybe in 20 or 25 years, he should have a shot at appealing the "Without Parole" part of his sentence. I do think he has a genuine shot at getting that part of his sentence reconsidered if his time in prison reformed him. But he did kill four people...and probably tried to kill more. So I think he should serve at least 20 years if not more, before he even gets allowed to be considered for Parole.
Less concerned with his sentencing than I am for his parents sentencing. They engaged in a straw puchase to buy him the gun he used, how long are they going to get?
This is EXACTLY how the Gays groom kids!
Seems just.
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