Biden's health care wins are being undone — and at the worst possible time (www.politico.com)

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Sen. Ron Wyden, chair of the committee that oversees Medicaid, likened some states' attempts to stop people from losing coverage to "waving at somebody as their car goes by, and going, well, we contacted you."

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[-] donut4ever@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

It's crazy how they make it their mission to fuck up everything the Democrats do, even if it benefits the people. This two party system is an absolute joke. We keep getting thrown around every fucking 4 years, just because some dude has a small dick problems.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

This two party system is an absolute joke.

No, the fact that people keep voting Republican is an absolute joke. These awful things happen with the explicit approval of tens of millions of people.

[-] circularfish@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't really read it that way, but see what you mean.

But along those lines, I'm a "vote blue to keep the troglodytes out" type, and supported the ACA as an incremental step, but I'm also appreciative of the criticism coming from further left over current healthcare policy. If the ACA really was an incremental step, then we shouldn't be talking about backsliding -- the administration should be prioritizing a push in the other direction. We can debate what that entails, and may be about to today, but the discussion should be about getting more folks covered.

[-] Can_Utility@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

the discussion should be about getting more folks covered

The discussion first needs to be substantially increasing Democratic numbers in both houses of Congress.

Obviously nothing will change for the better without a Democratic majority in the House. A nominal majority requires at least 4 more Democratic seats. There are far fewer Blue Dogs and conservative Dems than there were 15 years ago, but I would imagine a maximal ACA successor would require at least 30 new members to make sure assholes like Gottheimer don't gum up the works.

The filibuster rules in the Senate basically mandate at least 60 senators to pass anything of consequence. Yes, it's a Senatorial rule; yes, it can be removed with a straight majority. As it stands right now, two senators are on record as opposing filibuster repeal, and there are probably a few others who are still attached to the rules of the Senate as currently constituted. A fight over the filibuster now would fail, and time spent in the next Congress fighting to abolish the filibuster is time lost for legislating. So assume a minimum of 60 Democratic senators to be able to operate free of Republican obstruction. Again, if you want a maximal bill, you need more than 60 senators, to get around problem children like Manchin and Sinema* and other conservative Dems.

We're obviously in the realm of LBJ after the 1964 landslide here, which helps to explain why progressive victories are so hard-fought and far between. People forget that a big reason LBJ was able to enact the Great Society is because he was backed by 288 Democrats in the House and 66 Democrats in the Senate. By comparison, Obama had 60 Democrats in the Senate for about six to nine months, which is how the ACA was able to pass but was also why the ACA wasn't better than it was.

If we want better outcomes, we need more (and better) Democrats.

*It's very possible that neither of them will be in the new Senate. It's also possible that on some issues they are stalking horses for other senators who prefer to let them draw the heat.

[-] circularfish@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I basically agree. As mentioned below, there are several issues, health care among them, that are winners at the ballot box if dems get the messaging right and are willing to go to the mat over principle.

[-] Can_Utility@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I hate that we're at this point, but I feel like reproductive rights is the wedge issue that has the best potential to break open state and federal legislatures for Democrats. The other issues you cited poll well, but haven't historically translated into reliable votes. Reproductive rights are much more salient. It makes me hopeful for the next few cycles but I worry that if and when a Democratic Congress is able to safeguard abortion rights once again people will fall back into old patterns. Eternal vigilance is the price to pay for a truly civilized society.

[-] circularfish@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I agree again, and just posted up an article about that very thing.

I do think health care can be this way too, though. It just has to be explained in a manner that is personal to Joe and Jill public. Stop talking about taking away private insurance, cause that will just scare them, and start talking about how they are already one serious illness and a faceless algorithm away from bankruptcy, which is scary, but in an accurate way.

[-] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I think a lot of people are exhausted from weaponized health care. People want affordable coverage. Not the most expensive, least efficient health care in the world.

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