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"~~Don't~~ be evil" (imgflip.com)
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[-] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 108 points 1 year ago

Why just ruin a web browser when you can try and ruin the entire internet?

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There will always be a free internet, but it will require leaving popular sites (if Google gets its way).

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

If they push a few million people to FOSS and we're all just happily using Lemmy and Mastodon on Firefox in Linux, I'm ok with that.

[-] sock@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

if search engines that werent google didnt suck id be happy to use another one. even google is getting worse results now too but at least its usually wrong really quickly

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[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Very little of value will be lost.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 year ago

And switching away from physical products like Logitech peripherals that are already forcing you to go to a site that only works in chromium browsers in order to pair.

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[-] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

I suspect the websites that use this system won't be worth visiting anyway.

[-] Mountaineer@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you won't use your banks website?
Or your utilities (gas/water/electricity/internet)?
You won't let your kids use the portal at their school for submitting assignments?
Your government sites for renewing your drivers license or scheduling hard refuse pickup?

I can think of lots of reasons that will force me to have chrome installed if this goes ahead.

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago

Your government sites for renewing your drivers license or scheduling hard refuse pickup?

As a government programmer, let me assure you that we're so goddamn far behind modern tech we've only just stopped supporting IE6.

[-] Mountaineer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Comforting and Terrifying.
Comferrifying?
Terriforting?

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In all seriousness we make sure things work with modern browsers, but you're never going to find a government agency requiring the latest and most advanced tech. For one thing, nothing in government moves fast enough to make that even remotely possible.

Also there's no way I'm gonna learn how to use some new piece of tech every few months. They don't pay us nearly enough for that kind of effort.

EDIT: Oh but I wasn't kidding about dropping support for IE6 recently. It was like a year or so ago, not last week, but still.

[-] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago
[-] pelotron@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Terriforting in this case

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

All of them

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago

Lots of potential for accessibility lawsuits, too.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Good point. If it's just some random website though, fuck em.

[-] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

I can think of lots of reasons that will force me to have chrome installed if this goes ahead.

it might even go as far as being chrome on a supported OS (win/mac/cros/android with google play services)

[-] digdug@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I work on the website for a medium sized utility, and will definitely resist implementing this.

I have been trying to convince my manager to let me switch to an authentication solution that supports webauthn, though.

[-] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

A manager only has so much power. Once the higher ups decide on things, nothing can be done. And we see too much examples of executive level people that are so out of touch.

[-] digdug@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was just thinking about this more, and what if Google decides to implement this on Google maps? Am I going to have to put a message up saying something like, "sorry, you can't view our outage map unless you use a browser that supports web integrity"?

Because you're right, convincing the higher ups to let me switch to OpenStreetMap is probably going to be a losing battle.

[-] lesinge@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Sigh, too true.

[-] root@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'll have a specific VLAN for people needing those things

[-] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but if Chrome is only used for a couple of utility websites, it won't be a win for Google.

[-] Mountaineer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This whole episode is giving me flashbacks to the ActiveX days.

Image

The tyranny of the default.

"Here mum, I've installed Firefox for you, it's better than Chrome in every way!"
"My knitting circle website doesn't work, I can't download patterns, it says I need Chrome"

Internet Explorer was effectively abandon-ware for a decade after Microsoft used their OS pseudo-monopoly to crush Netscape.
It took another tech giant abusing THEIR monopoly to relegate IE to the trash heap it should have already been on.

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 year ago

More like "Don't, be evil."

[-] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Google: Don't be evil to us

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

laughs in Safe Script

I haven't had ads showing up in decades. I literally have all of the google addons for websites revoked, as well as every advertising outlet, don't block the ads, block the javascript that services them.

[-] DigitalWanderer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

got a tutorial or something for this?

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[-] Nioxic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Maddison@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Seriously, post directly to the website, don't bother to post it on another image hosting site.

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

For what it's worth, I didn't post it to imgflip; I created it on imgflip.

Here's a downloaded and re-uploaded directly to lemmy.ml version, for posterity's sake:

[-] Maddison@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

appreciate it, thank you

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Any EU people around here that could eli5 this new thing and the possible consequences for EU residents using the internet?

[-] ArmainAP@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Same as everybody else. No chromium for trusted DRM, no access. i am not aware of EU saying anything public about it yet, but you should fill an anti-trust complain to bring it to their attention. I already did.

https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures/complaints_en

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago
[-] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Lol it's like going back in time. I remember the days when sites wouldn't support certain browsers because of differences in programming (accidental, if you will). Now, we've gone full circle and are intentionally blocking use of a site when not using a particular browser. Wouldn't this be considered monopolistic?

[-] sharkfucker420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My main browser is tor, blocks JavaScript so 🤷

I have Firefox but use it exclusively for school stuff that doesn't work on tor

[-] Norgrimm@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

I mean, tor is also Firefox

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

"I'm not using Chrome, I use Brave".
My brother in christ, you are using chrome with a different color pallet and a different company that sells your data

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[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

You can also block js without getting tor.

[-] JhonnyTheJeccer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

NoScript gang

[-] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 10 points 1 year ago
[-] Ultra980@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't be just evil

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

So… if I’ve got my iPhone and Mac and use Safari and Firefox, I can still use Adblock?

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 year ago

For now, probably. Only a matter of time before most websites only work in chrome if they get their way, though.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Well, better learn how to make a raspberry pi adblocker then…

[-] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

What is to be done, then?

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