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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by WhoRoger@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

A ton of countries have a decently active Lemmy instance, including the English-speaking ones (UK, AUS, NZ, ZA).

The closest to a US one that I know of is midwest.social, which looks pretty lively from what I can tell.

Anyway, so lemmy.world is becoming quite populated with all kinds of US-specific stuff, like communities for sports teams, sometimes with generic names that could be used for other things ( !bears@lemmy.world ), states/cities like !texas@lemmy.world or even !politics@lemmy.world (while !uspolitics@lemmy.world also exists), with other instances also having duplicate comms.

I'm expecting Lemmy to have, at some point, and hopefully soon, an option to block entire instances so that we don't have to see posts especially that are country-specific. But I'll need to block all the baseball teams one by one if I want to browse all and try to find new things.

And I'm sure it would also be more convenient to have it all under one roof, just like everything about Germany is under feddit.de, and people from elsewhere can still visit if they like.

So, please someone make one? Or navigate people to the right one? Thank yooou

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[-] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago

The US-defaultism that happens on the internet is very annoying

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's especially annoying when you live in a different English speaking country. I don't give a shit about your pounds in the chicken recipe.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

That's right! Put dollars in the chicken recipe!

Anyway that's my two cents.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Let’s say 2/100 of your country’s primary monetary unit. No reason to be US centric.

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[-] Blazingflames6073@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I immediately became a bit upset when I read this post and realized US defaultism was going to happen on lemmy too now. Very annoying thing.

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[-] KeisukeTakatou@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

I mean pretty much every website is US focused unless stated otherwise.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

And the argument always was that Reddit/Facebook/Twitter/whatever are American.

Well, Lemmy is not. So there's no reason for it to be americanised by default.

(Unless we'll hear the argument that the internet is American :p)

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think hosting was ever the argument. It was always just that the vast majority of users were American.

Any site defaulting to English is going to attract users who predominantly speak English as their primary language, and then people who speak English as a sort of lingua franca are going to be a smaller part of that. Among native English speakers, Americans make up the majority, so that's the prevailing default you are likely to see.

Even if Lemmy.world is hosted in Europe, I'd hazard that the largest user demographic is still Americans.

[-] time_example@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Actually (!) the majority of Reddit users are not American. Although Americans make up the largest single group, they’re in the minority overall.

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[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

It is a stupid argument anyway that fundamentally ignores the entire concept of the internet being global and universal. If a site is aimed at a global userbase it is mostly completely irrelevant (except for legal purposes of course) where that site was originally created or where the servers are located.

[-] Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Well, Al Gore said he invented it, so...

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That was never the argument, the internet was always international and not just American.

The issue is language, the assumption is English spoken content is assumed to be American or possibly british/Australian.

I'd like to see that get more fluid, but that probably involves a lot of people speaking more English or more autotranslate kicking in.

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[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago
[-] zaph@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

If they were wrong people wouldn't be complaining about US defaultism.

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[-] Knoll0114@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah I assume the reason there isn't is because the general ones are US-centric by default and then everyone else has to have somewhere specific to go. But I guess if they want their own dedicated place too why not?

[-] tkc@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago

Isn't that the problem being stated in the OP haha.

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[-] Propane@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 year ago

Of course the Germans have have everything all organized.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Ja natürlich :)

[-] n8schicht@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Na klar! 😁

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's what we love about them. And the accent when they speak English. And their cars. Not forgetting their tools. Beer.

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[-] TheRealBob@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I mean you can just have your feed show only the stuff you’re subscribed to…

[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Given the prevalence of US defaultism, I don't mind the lack of a US-specific one. Plus, unless an instance, or even community, is regionally specific, chances are Americans are going to assume it to be American. Even if that subreddit specifically claims to be worldwide, it may still be dominated in excess by Americans, like the politics @ lemmy.ml community.

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[-] jono@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ca exists for Canada too. There are dozens of us. Dozens!

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[-] Andreas@feddit.dk 12 points 1 year ago

And I'm sure it would also be more convenient to have it all under one roof, just like everything about Germany is under feddit.de, and people from elsewhere can still visit if they like.

I'm trying to advertise my country's instance, feddit.nu (Sweden). feddit.de got a headstart with Germans by having been created before the Reddit migration and providing the first federated community discovery tool.

Instances that were created after the migration started on the other hand? It's frustrating with Redditor behavior, because they expect the Lemmy community to share the same name as the Reddit community (/r/Sweden) and only subscribe to communities that use the same name.

If you don't want your lemmy.world feed to be flooded with languages you can't understand, please make sure to annoy their users about it as much as possible, in English, that they should move to the country-specific instances instead of centralizing on lemmy.world. It's healthier for the Fediverse in general with everyone on many instances, in the long run.

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[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

well now someone needs to make the most obnoxiously American patriotic instance possible, as a meme

[-] SQL_InjectMe@partizle.com 12 points 1 year ago

Can we afford to buy freedom.us?

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[-] Derproid@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Well beehaw.org is hosted in NYC.

[-] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] Andreas@feddit.dk 13 points 1 year ago

It's Estonian (.ee is the country code for Estonia) but it's also a cool domain hack and the owner opened it to everyone.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If it is, they aren't doing much to advertise it or to attract those kinds of communities.

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[-] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world is not the US instance? 😱 🦅🦅🦅

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[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought beehaw.org is US based.

[-] domesticstreetcat@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago

I intentionally used one based in Switzerland. Like my email and VPN needs.

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[-] Dragonmind@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It might be because most of us Americans lick the boots of corporations for free or get in line to.

[-] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget about subscription services for everything!

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I like my life for rent!

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