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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Burglary is impossible without breaking some doors and locks. So you have to make it legal to break doors and locks now, because otherwise I cannot go on with my profession.

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[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

TBH I only use LLMs when traditional search fails and even then I'm not sure if I'm getting something useful or hallucination. I need better search engines not fancy AI bullshitters

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A ton of people need to read some basic background on how copyright, trademark, and patents protect people. Having none of those things would be horrible for modern society. Wiping out millions of jobs, medical advancements, and putting control into the hands of companies who can steal and strongarm the best. If you want to live in a world run by Mafia style big business then sure.

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[–] pacology@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

We’ll, strictly speaking you could have an AI that only knows about the world up to 1928 and talks like it’s 1928.

[–] shotgun_surgery@links.hackliberty.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Intellectual property is crap anyway

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Help Help! My business model is illegal, but it makes SO MUCH money! What do I doooo?

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've learned from lemmy that individual's abuse of copyright is good👍

LLMs trained on copyrighted material and suddenly everyone is an advocate for more strict copyright enforcement?

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[–] BURN@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Too bad

Why do they have free reign to store and use copyrighted material as training data? AIs don’t learn as a human would, and comparisons can’t be made between the learning processes.

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[–] autotldr 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The developer OpenAI has said it would be impossible to create tools like its groundbreaking chatbot ChatGPT without access to copyrighted material, as pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products.

Chatbots such as ChatGPT and image generators like Stable Diffusion are “trained” on a vast trove of data taken from the internet, with much of it covered by copyright – a legal protection against someone’s work being used without permission.

AI companies’ defence of using copyrighted material tends to lean on the legal doctrine of “fair use”, which allows use of content in certain circumstances without seeking the owner’s permission.

John Grisham, Jodi Picoult and George RR Martin were among 17 authors who sued OpenAI in September alleging “systematic theft on a mass scale”.

Getty Images, which owns one of the largest photo libraries in the world, is suing the creator of Stable Diffusion, Stability AI, in the US and in England and Wales for alleged copyright breaches.

The submission said it backed “red-teaming” of AI systems, where third-party researchers test the safety of a product by emulating the behaviour of rogue actors.


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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I also have no way to own a billion dollar. Sucks for both of us...

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a fatal problem. That's a shame.

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