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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The quality of duolingo has gone down massively in the past few years as they have done lay-offs, they don't even have anyone checking the feedback coming from users any-more.

the courses themselves are worse too, designed more to stretch out app usage rather than teach more. I used to recommend duolingo as a good starter on learning a language, but it's just so bad now that I won't. And it seems to be a direct result of layoffs.

[–] solivine@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah now it repeats the same vocab over and over a bit too long and it's hard to get much use out of it

[–] madis@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Well, you always had the option to skip a level.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

Duolingo is a steaming pile compared to what it used to be. The nags to pay went up and the quality went down. Their new learning path completely ruined the process for me.

[–] AmieFromEarth@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is there any better app you can recommend? I started with babbel in the beginning but after finishing the basic courses it got so dry and boring to use, that i swapped to Duo. Also because a few friends use it.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I strongly recommend [Language Transfer ](https://language transfer.org). The best language course I have ever done, and I have done many (I speak five languages, at varying levels of fluency).

They have an app, that is simple, streamlined, and very functional.

The app also has also an Introduction to Music Theory course which people say is very, very good.

[–] Kyoyeou@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

Hey mate you have a space in the url mate, looks cool, might motivate myself to go back to learning language

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

I second this. I did the Greek course and it was absolutely phenomenal.

You have a space in your URL btw.

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I thought my duolingo leasons were a bit weak. Thank you so much for these!

[–] BoneALisa@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I've been using LingoDeer for the past few days since hearing this news, and so far it's not too bad. The social features are severely lacking compared to Duolingo (my friend group goes hard on the friends quests lol) but they have a lot more grammar explanation and whatnot available that duolingo doesn't. Plus, LingoDeer seems much less focused on learning for tourism, and more for actual learning.

Note this is all for the Japanese course, no idea how their other courses are.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Also interested in this

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did the Latin course last year and was unpleasantly surprised by how low quality znd even low quantity it was. Guess I'll try Babbel next.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

babbel is much worse

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To be fair, it has been a long time of the decline and increased monetization.

I remember using it at a time where gems had only cosmetic use or you could freeze your streak.

I did not use it for a couple years and came back to gems being used for a whole lot more, a few free exercises and then it cost gems. Getting the final, I think gold, level of each exercise cost like 100 gems a try, no mistakes allowed.

The only reason I still kept using it was that in the early years I amassed 10000+ gems, so I was slowly using those up. Once that was over I stopped, unusable without paying and even then it does not provide more than vocabulary practise.

[–] Olap@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whoever owns all these companies that are so keen on replacing everything with AI better invest in defense robots because people are going to have a lot of time on their hand and very little money.

[–] sab@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A lot of people don't have much food on their table
But they got a lot of forks n' knives
And they gotta cut somethin'

- Dylan

[–] nemam__ime@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

It really went to shit when they removed the forum which was one of the most useful parts of the whole app

[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If anyone has a good app to learn Korean I’d love a rec. at best duo just helps me with vocab.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly I prefer Babbel over Duolingo. It requires a sub though

[–] quirzle@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Grabbed a year on the Black Friday sale and, holy shit, it's so much better. Actual explanations and lessons is way better than the pointless gamification/leaderboards.

[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It doesn’t look like they offer Korean. Shame.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Duolingo lays off 10% of contract workers, partly due to greedy executives.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] shundi82@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago
[–] casmael@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Any recommendations for language learning that doesn’t involve Duolingo?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lingodeer is pretty great. It has a similar free/premium model to Duo, but unlike Duo there is an option to buy premium perpetually rather than as a subscription (and it is on sale currently)

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Assimil courses, fsi courses, language transfer, Clozemaster (app), Pimsleur.