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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 119 points 10 months ago

I hate this relatively new idea that comedy has to be mean. If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you're not funny.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

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I just saw this posted on lemmy a while back. It's so good. lol

[-] the_blast_of_us@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

For anyone who likes this, his entire show is brilliant and you can buy it for a fairly reasonable price directly from his homepage:

https://www.jamesacaster.com/cold-lasagne/

Honestly one of if not the best Stand-Up routine I've seen in the past ten years

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

If you're the kind of person that thinks no comedy can be mean, you're helping to destroy comedy

Just my opinion. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Don't hate those that understand centuries upon centuries of schadenfreude is what made us a funny species

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Mean comedy and riling people up can be funny.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 56 points 10 months ago

Kevin Hart aside (I'll let others talk about what they like or dislike about him) -

I don't know how anyone thinks that the hollywood "elite" are comedy friendly. I don't know any celebrities right now that can take a joke about themselves. Either lighthearted or a good ribbing, I just see every one of them being upset and pouty. Sure they'll laugh at others, but to each one of them they're untouchable when it comes to jokes.

Personally I liked the humor, for me it humanizes them and it's like "Okay let's ground this thing in some reality before we make you feel like you're the most important people on the planet", but of course god forbid they remember they're just like us.

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago

Eh, barely anyone watches these award shows anyway. It's wealthy narcissism voting for other wealthy narcissists.

[-] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Having seen Kevin Hart live, I'm not surprised.

It was incredibly depressing that his openers (his "Solo cup boys") made homophobic jokes. One in particular was about how the comedian would be disappointed if his son was gay because he couldn't take him to the strip club with him.

Sorry that people aren't receptive to shitty, bigoted jokes any more Kevin. Maybe you and Dave Chappelle can get together and make jokes about trans/gay people to empty audiences.

Or in terms that you're more familiar with, "you 'gon learn today!'

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago

One in particular was about how the comedian would be disappointed if his son was gay because he couldn’t take him to the strip club with him.

The premise could have worked if he switched it around and said that he was going to have to go to gay strip club or Chippendale's or something instead of being a complaint about not being able to go to his usual clubs. That would have made it supportive and accepting of his son while also highlighting his personal hangups.

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago

The idea of going to a strip club is repulsive to me, going with my dad is even worse... Wtf kind of joke is that even

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

A joke about taking your adult children to a strip club is funny because of how weird it would be. Hart flubbed it by making his son's sexuality the punchline.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The original comment was talking about the openers for Kevin Hart, not Kevin Hart himself. So the punchline shouldn't have been made by Hart or about Hart's son.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago
[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

kevin hart was originally going to be in tropic thunder but he refused to play a gay character so he was dropped

[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

And then he put on a dress.

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[-] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

Yep, I was equally disappointed with the execution.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

If your humor is based on punching down then fuck off, life is shitty enough as it is for most people without having a multi millionaire laughing at them.

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[-] detinu@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

I don't get it, he should be a perfect host then right?

[-] ghostface@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

My only rebuttal to this, is the whitehouse correspondance dinner. That's the whole point of comedy.

Jeselnik said something to this point when he mentioned the Boston marathon bombing. What's funny about the bombing, nothing. But that's why there comedians who can find humor in the darkest of places.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure Seth Myers caused Trump to run for President tho. Or maybe it was his opening act

[-] ClopClopMcFuckwad@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I would say Jon Stewart was more influential for Trump running for president. Stewart had him on the Daily Show multiple times trying to lampoon Trump for being a birth certificate denyer towards Obama. Steward continually egged him on, well if you can do better why don't you run for president?

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

the less I hear about or see kevin hart, the better. Feel free to remove yourself from more media, kevin.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Same. He's become the token "loud and safe black guy" in random white people movies.

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[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I'm not really understanding the article. Does it mention he was asked to host this year and declined? It almost seems like he's putting it out there because

A. He's trying to build controversy so that he's asked and can either publicly decline or "relunctantly" accept and say that he only did it under the condition that he could say whatever he wanted.

Or B. He asked and they turned him down so he's saying he never wanted to anyway.

It all sounds fake. He has all the connections he needs to be able to host.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure why anyone watches the Oscars, or cares about them, unless you're somehow involved.

So, whether or not he hosts them.. Whatever.

Get Will smith to co host with Chris Rock, and thats the only time I might consider it.

[-] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago
[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Ricky Gervais hosting the Golden Globes was pretty fun. Current day Ricky Gervais has been missing a lot lately with his comedy.

[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

No loss here. Take your jokes and go home. Soooooooo many others who would love the chance.

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago
[-] SharkAttak@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Why? Since they are such a joke..

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