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Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit? (lemm.ee)

submitted 10 months ago by kratoz29@lemm.ee to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Shocked Pikachu face meme.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 426 points 10 months ago

...tantrum...

What a fart gobbler.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 345 points 10 months ago

I didn't have a "tantrum" when they blocked my 3rd-party app for corporate reasons... I just stopped using Reddit.

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago

Exactly, I didn't have a tantrum. I used a third party app because of the accessibility features it offered that the official app doesn't. I can't use reddit now, so I don't use reddit.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

So now they are pushing the narrative eight months later that people left in a tantrum?

The fact they still talk about that over there says a lot.

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[-] Toribor@corndog.social 129 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. It's like hey... If the corpos take a dump in your mouth you can either leave or you can stick around and complain about the taste. And yet the people who left are the whiners?

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[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 114 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“Sure, 90% of the sub voted for this and the reasons for shutting down are clearly laid out, but y’all are doing this for literally no reason. Stop throwing a tantrum and give me my memes NOW.”

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago

They won I guess, enjoy.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think what really bothered me about that whole affair, and why I had my single worst outburst on Discord by a large margin as well that I still feel bad about, was because it was so frustrating seeing so many people who didn’t just disagree with us - I can handle disagreement, I can handle discussion and debate, I can even handle a little heat throughout that process. But people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article!

They were asking the most basic questions, my favorite being “what is this even about? It’s not like you have a reason.” It was insulting really. Here we were spending all this time and effort worrying about the community, Reddit, how to do this in the most fair way possible and produce what we believe to be the best outcome (or at least the outcome the community wanted in the end), and these people couldn’t even read three sentences before screaming at us and calling us names.

People just were not having it, they did not want to even talk about it. And this was just a sub for discussing video games.

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[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 62 points 10 months ago

...disappeared...

I wonder where they went...

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 59 points 10 months ago

People on reddit genuinely don't know because the L word gets the ban hammer there

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 316 points 10 months ago

Surely, attacking the mods of a community and calling them whiny babies will get you what you want, right?!

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 142 points 10 months ago

They are my mods, they should do as I command

[-] don@lemm.ee 98 points 10 months ago

I’m a motherfuckin user. I log onto this website sometimes. That means I dictate when you shit and for how long. Just be glad your breathing is out of my control. For now.

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 64 points 10 months ago

People have gotten fucking insane with this "Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times full stop and if they don't they're literal fucking garbage, and if you disagree or care about a different thing than me you're just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff" mentality.

I'm a lefty, and it's an election year which means I get to deal with this for 10 months straight from the dems.

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[-] Yewb@kbin.social 87 points 10 months ago

Landed gentry!

When I read that I never went back.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 290 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 120 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.

The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.

Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.

[-] retro@infosec.pub 65 points 10 months ago

The r/piracy wiki died when I stopped updating it which is a shame, I used to recommend it to everyone. Now I pass them onto FMHY or awesome.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We do have our own piracy wiki here BTW!

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[-] Johanno@feddit.de 48 points 10 months ago

How could you?! As a Karen I demand the r/piracy manager and that he forces you to go back and work for free!

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 10 months ago

Oh, I wasn’t a mod of r/piracy, I modded r/noahgettheboat.

But yeah, the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.

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[-] figjam@midwest.social 39 points 10 months ago

"Clean it up janny!" Good on you for getting out

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 51 points 10 months ago

I always laughed when someone called us a "janitor" after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 238 points 10 months ago

"If you don't like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!"

Mods left

"Where is all the mods?"

"They're just butthurt they didn't get any support hue hue hue"

Internet is a funni place.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ with “I did, check the sidebar.” I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 165 points 10 months ago

Piracy mods are few of the mods with a backbone that actually left reddit because of all the bullshit.

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 10 months ago

They probably realized the same skillset that set up their *arr config could be used to host a lemmy instance

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 162 points 10 months ago

Don't they understand the mods leaving is a consequence of that "tantrum"?

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 155 points 10 months ago

They're clearly using shaming tactics. By calling it a "tantrum" they try to make those mods look childish. In reality the mods demanded something to make their jobs easier, the company refused, so they parted ways.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 122 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not "job", these are "volunteering contributions", that are not only time consuming, mentally consuming, and unpaid as well.

[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 118 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hello, I'm meep_launcher, and I'm a recovering moderator.

Not only did my tools get taken, after the mass exedus, my mod queue exploded. There were so many more racist reports than before, and I was mod of a political satire subreddit.

Turns out the exedus took all the left leaning redditors leaving behind real pieces of work.

Glad I made the switch, and I set up cartographyanarchy here, so maybe I can get back to doing what I love, shitposting maps.

Shitpost maps with me!

One more edit, I want to get this community up and running, so if you post in the next 24 hours I will write your map a song and post the link in the comments.

Oh also DM if you want to be a mod! Definitely looking for folks skilled in the art of Lemmy, coding, or just being all around wholesome.

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[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 109 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Seems like the way for reddit to "solve" this is to just close bad subs.

But that's easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed...

Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you've made your entire business unsustainable at scale?

Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don't wanna do that, and "communities" is four whole syllables, and ain't nobody got time for that.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 56 points 10 months ago

Kbin calls them "magazines", which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.

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[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 43 points 10 months ago

"solve"

to make your site good

unsustainable

I think you're misunderstanding reddit's goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don't care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.

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[-] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 10 months ago

I like it here on Lemme. I feel pretty comfy. And most of you here are tech savvy. And if not, at least you have some level of basic true understanding of how technology works., Unlike those impostor syndrome redditors. And I suppose it's a plus that corporations don't hunt us down for discussing piracy.

[-] jackpot@lemmy.ml 42 points 10 months ago

the larger we get, the more it will get fucked by ai bots, corporations, and shitty content creators

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[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 75 points 10 months ago

What a goofy interpretation of that series of events. Reddit changes API which fucks over moderators -> mods protest and say if they can't use these tools they can't moderate -> when API restrictions come into effect, mods either leave over moderating being way harder now or basically not being able to mod

Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn't lying to people for fun

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago

wonder how mods disappearing and reddit API changes might be related 🤔