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Okay let me start with two heavy hitters right from the get go and don't forget these are only personal oppinions and I absolute understand if you like those games. Good for you!

Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Not a bad game per se, but I don't get the hype behind it. Sure the dungeons are fun but the world is so lifeless, the story non existent, the combat pretty shallow, the tower climbing is very much like FarCry but for some reasons it's okay here while Ubisoft gets the blame...like I said I dont get why the game is so beloved. Never finished it after the 20 hour mark and probably never will.

Red Dead Redemption 2 - Just like Zelda not a bad game, but imho highly overrated. Graphics and and atmosphere are amazing but the controls are clunky and overloaded, nearly everybody is an unlikable douchebag who I would love to shoot myself at the first opportunity (maybe except Jack and Abigail) but I have to root and care for them. The game is just so long and feels very stretched, you already know that you won't get Dutch because it's a prequel and for an open world game you often get handholded in your weapon selection or things you can do because you have to wait for them to be unlocked by the game. I'm now nearly done with the game, playing the epilogue at the moment and I would say the last chapters are more entertaining than the rest of the game, but I still can't understand why this game was on so many game of the year lists and I really wanted to put the controller down a dozen times.

So there they are, two highly controversial oppinions by me and now I'm really curios what your takes are and how highly I get downvoted into oblivion πŸ˜‚

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[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Top down, RTS, and point and click games. That includes XCOM, Baldur's Gate, Pillars of Eternity, etc. They just seem to be lacking immersion, I'd much rather play a 3rd person action game or an FPS

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[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

you seem to spend a long time playing games you don't like πŸ˜…

for an explanation of why people love botw: https://youtu.be/CZzcVs8tNfE

I completely agree about rdr2, but I didn't play it that long before I just installed mods to let me duck around more and explore the beautiful world.

games i don't like that everyone seems to love: games that waste my time with levelling systems that draw the game out way longer than it's fun, which is most modern AAA games. I hate how people say things like "you get your moneys worth playing WoW because you'll spend hours playing it" and "i liked portal but it was too short", portal was good partly because it was short...

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Doom: The Dark Ages.

Yes, it's a pretty game. Sure, they hit their design goals, but it's the design itself that I hate. It's geared entirely towards close combat to the point where half the weapons are redundant or otherwise stupidly useless compared to others. It's geared towards close combat to the point that the player's projectiles disappear after a certain distance, while the enemies' shots can travel much further. Sure, there's plenty of 'nice' things they added to make it easy to churn around a bunch of groups of enemies up close, but it's insanely dumb how it's 100% of the game design. Especially because many of the maps are trying to show off large vistas and open areas, where it becomes VERY obvious that the player's shots disappear while you're being pelted by enemy fire just fine.

The extra game modes of flying and being in the mech are neat in concept, but so insanely underbaked they feel more like a waste of time task to push through than a cool extra part of the game to enjoy. They're not mixed in with the on foot parts well at all and feel more like basic transitionary moments they attempted to add some gameplay to.

The attention to detail sucks, especially in the UI. A couple easy points demonstrate it: The most obvious is how their UI triggers work. You can click a button, and it plays the activate sound, but it's not activating if you click it before the mouseover/highlight animation is done. In a similar vein, most affirmative interactions are a stupid wait for it long-press while going back to the mian menu from between levels is as simple as an escape key press. A purposefully slow forward with an instant back is just... pointlessly dumb. In a similar vein, while the game is showing you all the crap you did and found in the level, your only options are to sit there and get annoyed with the obnoxious, slow, and loud tallying of everything, or skip ahead to other pages and go back. Escape and space don't skip or do anything there. Basically, there seems to only be one poorly thought out path to get to anywhere in the UI, with no convenient or standard alternatives implemented: Half baked.

The story and character designs were made by edgy teenagers. It's infinitely worse than Doom Eternal or 2016. Old Ones are C'thulu ripoffs, most of the styling of Hell/etc are now just generic scifi with a bit more red, and many of the new designs are somehow more generic ripoffs of older doom. They pull inspiration from tons of other spooky things instead of rolling with the Hell themes or other established lore. So much of the added lore is just ripoffs of greek mythology and other things, too, like a boat to ferry souls and a bunch of other crap I don't care to remember because it's just not memorable, intersting, nor do they fit the usual themes of Doom.

In a similar vein, so much of the story is lackluster and uninspired. There is some interesting sounding writing hidden in the lore book, like why the slayer's mount is half mech, but it's simply stated in the lore instead of being a potentially cool way to introduce the mount or other things. So much of the game is ONE game loop (close combat) with few dynamic options and a bunch of extra half-baked fluff tacked on.

It's frustratingly narrow sighted and underbaked to deserve to follow Eternal or 2016. It feels like it's in some parallel universe from the other games, even from 2016 and Eternal.

I want to play the DOOM Slayer rampaging through a Hell inspired by 90's metal, not some parallel universe written by edgy teenagers where he's some glorified Master Chief ripoff with anger issues for a personality who's just following orders.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sonic games, I'm referring specifically to the first one and that era.

My friend and I rented a Genesis I believe it was, specifically to play this, we thought the graphics were awesome, the speed was amazing, the t3ch show off was cool, the game had novelty.

But really from a gameplay perspective, I simply do not understand what people like about it.

The whole thing was just run as fast as you can down this path, you have no idea what's coming up. There will be multiple opportunities to take different paths but you don't really have time to make a judgment call, so you flail at the controller and end up hitting a hazard. You start the level over and over and over again and you repeat it until you understand which way to go and then you complete the level.

Now you've run into every single gotcha and you figured out some optimal routes, now you can play it all without dying a lot.

Why would anybody want this?

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Not a bad game per se, but I don't get the hype behind it. Sure the dungeons are fun but the world is so lifeless, the story non existent, the combat pretty shallow, the tower climbing is very much like FarCry but for some reasons it's okay here while Ubisoft gets the blame...like I said I dont get why the game is so beloved. Never finished it after the 20 hour mark and probably never will.

Maybe you are missing, or ignoring the context that this was like the big jump from conventional Zelda to... Well BOTW.

I don't consider myself a Zelda guy, but I have played several games, and I find BOTW a very good open world, yeah, it might feel empty, but at the same time it feels like you can do lots of things, kinda like making your own adventure, so I guess it needs commitment from the user side.

That aspect made me understand the context of the game and I have been having a lot of fun with it, if you see something you must likely can interact with it, or has a meaning.

This is very impressive for a Wii U/Switch game if you ask me, and also I feel like if I don't play BOTW before Tears of The Kingdom I would never go back to try it 🀣 (that is why I'm paying it).

My only real issue with it is that its soundtrack on the field is so dull, some people like it and say that it is to be ambient or subtle, but screw that, give me my epic tracks! I need something that moves my feet lol, there must be a reason why many RPGs (which are with us before open world games and provide a lengthy experience) have catchy tracks.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Breathe of the Wild is a great tech demo, but a terrible game... I feel like a total boomer playing Ship of Harkinian... but... sadly 3D Zelda has a worse fucking track record than 3D Sonic......

But it's okay when Nintendo does it

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Real time strategy games are not my cup of tea. Nothing against anyone who enjoys them, understand, but they're basically exercises in who can do the clicky clicky faster. Give me a turn-based game any day... where you actually have to out-think versus out-click your opponents.

Oh, and any game that pits console players against PC players. Yes, let's put the 'stock controllers only' console players up against the PC players with $8,675,309.00 of custom equipment and every cheat they can get away with. Sounds like a reasonable plan. Overwatch, I'm looking at you.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That depends on which RTS you play, Aoe4 has one pro with 120 or so APM which would be unthinkable in StarCraft, strategy is much more important.

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[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

KOTAR

After growing up with Star Wars games like X-Wing/TIE Fighter, Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Shadows of the Empire... The whole choose your own adventure text game was a really lame step down.

So many people say it's the pinnacle of SW games and I just see it as a game that could have been made for Commador 64 that has has some cut scenes added over it.

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[–] Chuymatt@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OP just doesn’t like horses…

[–] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

that's a bold statement.

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