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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If someone says they have nothing to hide, I ask if they also leave the door open when they use a public rest room.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah or tell them you need to look at all of their emails and texts right now. Will also need to listen to recordings of every phone call they've ever made.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The right wing (small government? Don't look into things that aren't your business?) Would like to require genital checks before bathroom usage, but only for a certain "type"of person.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not illegal to monitor someone's smart water meter as it's not encrypted. You can tell whenever they shower or go to the bathroom and then send them a log of their activity. It's not illegal

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Creepy and stalkery, though.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Do it to your local council so they know how it feels.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a hobby of collecting restraining orders?

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can't get a restraining order unless the person threatens you. It's also not stalking under my states law.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Always wondered what stalking actually was - I mean paparazzi seem legally well protected.

A new (June 2023) US Supreme Court “standard essentially brushes a street protester with the same stroke as a persistent obsessive who subjects someone to intense and long-term technologically enabled abuse”. Oof.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Incredible way to reply “sus”.

Wondered where that was from:

In Transformers: Age of Extinction, a 20 year old man shows the father of a 17 year old girl a laminated card of a Texas State law to justify him being in a sexual relationship with the 17 year old girl. This actually happens in the movie.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your understanding of the law is sadly lacking and would definitely get you arrested.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's an open radio signal then it's not illegal to listen to it. It's no different than a radio station.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Potentially not, but if you do that + send them a log of your activity then you've absolutely opened yourself up to an investigation.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Investigation of what exactly? There's nothing illegal about it if you don't make any threats. You could follow someone around and take pictures and notes on them too, not illegal.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Text messages: Written or typed messages sent electronically, typically via mobile phones or other digital devices.

Voicemails: Recorded audio messages left on voicemail systems or digital recording devices.

Videos: Visual recordings, either in the form of video clips or other visual media, capturing incidents related to the stalking.

Cards, photos, or letters: Physical or digital materials like greeting cards, photographs, or written correspondences that may have been sent by the stalker.

Unwanted gifts or items: Physical objects or digital transfers of items that were given to the victim without their consent or desire.

Social media friend requests or following: Instances where the stalker attempted to connect with or monitor the victim through social media platforms.

Emails: Digital messages sent through electronic mail services, often containing relevant information or threats.

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This is just a list of information I found on what counts as evidence stalking.

Do whatever you want dude, good luck. Lemme know how it goes!

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

The rule are different for public figures. They're not allowed to retaliate for public participation.

[–] Lath@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, it's a fetish. Don't be kink-shaming now!

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference between a kink and a crime is consent.

[–] Lath@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well now you're just complicating things. But it's ok, that's a kink too.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying that Avril Lavigne's breakthrough hit was about kink shaming? 🤔

[–] Lath@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. Definitely. Gotta follow your kinks or you'll miss out on one of the better things life has to offer.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait..you're saying that her kink is kink shaming? This is getting awfully complicated..

[–] Lath@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no. It's even more complicated than that. Her kink is kink shaming kink shaming...

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Voyeurs and exhibitionists: name a more iconic duo.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no, he had it right the first time: the sorts of people who want to look in your windows really do want to reign, like an autocrat.

.(I'm just riffing off your comment to make a point. I don't actually think the person was that clever and agree it was a typo.)

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought it was "free reign" but reign as in the way you reign a horse -- you give your horse "free reign" to do as it wishes.

EDIT : huh. Turns out I am right, but you "rein" a horse not "reign". Derp!

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was free rain, like the water falling from the sky.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nah, you gotta pay for that.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Until I start getting paid for my data being used for profit of others then my privacy is a form of self value preservation.

And I'll look out my blinds at you if I want.

I'll take photos, say hi sometimes and wish you a good day. Welcome to a planet full of living creatures.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Watching people on the street in public is very different to staring into someone's house -- their private residence.

Or would you be happy with someone standing in front of your house, taking pictures of everything you do in your front room?

If you saw someone doing that, wouldn't you be tempted to close the blinds?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ask Edward Snowden about the criminal penalties for voyarism.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just flat out ask them to take off all of their clothes, you can't lose.

Either they start to backtrack and realize that they do actually have boundaries, or things are about to get sexy. Either way, big win.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I love this clipping. I can't use it since it's got a comma splice, and I can't promote that.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everyone needs that neighborhood watch lady that knows what the fuck is up on the street though.

Pretty sure surveillance grandmas are meme everywhere in eastern Europe lol. Crews of like 3-4 old birds on stoops yelling at kids to quit stealing shit.

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1208986-meanwhile-in

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a young adult we started getting concerned about the number of cameras popping up everywhere. Then some news story ran that said an average person is filmed around 20 times throughout the course of their day. We all found that to be horrifying. Now that number is probably several thousand times per day, and people do not fucking care. It doesn't make sense to me. I care, but I'm made to feel like a weirdo if I ever say that.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

CCTV cameras have somewhat of a different connotation though. They are in a public space, no one's pointing a camera into your front room, they are looking at streets and roads.

I used to actually watch CCTV as a job (stupidly boring) trust me no one looks at that footage. They just have an algorithm that pulls up anything it deems relevant, and possibly AI now, then a human looks at that relevant 30 seconds of footage or whatever. Unless the monitoring systems flag something up, there is virtually zero chance anyone is going to have a look at it.

In theory I could have used the cameras to watch a single person but in practice there are monitoring logs someone would have noticed what I was doing and called me out on it. Besides we were all far too busy watching the crows staring into the camera lens.