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Tucker Carlson: Putin takes charge as TV host gives free rein to Kremlin (www.bbc.co.uk)

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What's America's view on this Tucker Carlson?

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[-] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 213 points 9 months ago

"Sooner or later this will end in agreement," was Putin's message, arguing that Nato was coming to realise that defeating Russia on the battlefield would be impossible.

Does Putin realize that NATO is effectively fighting Russia with both arms tied behind it's back right now? We're funding Ukraine (who are doing a phenomenal job, fwiw), but we're not even giving them the top of the line hardware. If the US actually got involved, Russia would pretty much instantly lose any glimmer of air superiority they have, and Ukraine could advance all the way to Moscow under NATO air cover. Like, the only reason Russia still exists is because NATO hasn't even tried to fight Russia on the battlefield yet.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 175 points 9 months ago

NATO isn't even fighting. NATO gave Ukraine their old boxing gloves and some advice.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And we're learning that a teenager with a drone can be hilariously effective against modern weapons.

So is Russia. Except Russia is learning how to combat the kids with drones too. They're gaining invaluable battlefield experience that NATO troops simply aren't.

Reports vary from side to side, from showing that Russians are curb stomping Ukraine to Ukraine is holding it's own. So, sure, NATO tossing the kid gloves to Ukraine and putting up a fight is comforting, but it isn't the whole picture. Russia wins a war of attrition. NATO is made up of democracies and war fatigue sets in fast when it's someone else's war. Russia is a de facto fascist dictatorship with deep oil pockets. The only thing that turns their troops around is the head of state dying, or a massive coup. Reports of ether being imminent seem to be rather premature.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 9 months ago

War attrition sets in much slower when you're not at war.

Yes, my government is sending some old equipment and dedicating 10% of the military budget (which is like 2% of the total spending) to help Ukraine.

That is much less shocking than "Dave from school came back without a leg, and my cousin John didn't come back at all".

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago

They're gaining invaluable battlefield experience that NATO troops simply aren't.

Oh, yes they are. Ukraine is in close contact with NATO countries and sharing intel. NATO countries are also buying drones in bulk right now. And developing ones that Russia will not see until they try to pick a fight with NATO.

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 82 points 9 months ago

My guess is is does, but he wants the US to lose interest and move on so coloring this as an exercise in futility helps further that goal.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

And it's great propaganda! Unless you are a smart Russian and realize he'll sacrifice as many Russian citizens as necessary to keep up the hoax.

[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago

Propaganda works. Period.

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 118 points 9 months ago

In general, IMO this is getting way more press than it deserves.

[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 80 points 9 months ago

Yeah, a lot of it is outrage bait. That is basically how Trump got elected, outrage -> coverage, coverage->legitimacy.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

It is fairly significant, he's an aggressor in a war currently affecting everything from NATO to inflation. And he has denied access to Western interviewers up until now (in recent times).

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 87 points 9 months ago

The American had touted his sit-down with Putin as a triumph for free speech, asserting that he was heading where no Western news outlets dared to tread.

its amazing that carlson points out his own purpose here is not 'news'.

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 104 points 9 months ago

Amusingly, even the russian government corrected him on that too - to paraphrase, "we have lots of requests to interview Putin, he just doesn't want to do it"

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 98 points 9 months ago

“we have lots of requests to interview Putin, he just doesn’t want to do it”

Because they're actual journalists who would ask serious questions.

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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The even more amazing part is that the Kremlin debunked him. They said they constantly get interview requests from journalists. They just never accept them.

Edit: Just saw this posted as a response already.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

That's ok, now I can upvote it twice

[-] avater@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago

what a waste of a great assassination possibility...

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 60 points 9 months ago

Putin really missed his chance.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 months ago

Ah, the old Lemmy switcheroo!

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[-] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 21 points 9 months ago

Tucker Carlson don't got that Seth Rogan build type for a mission like that...

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago

But attack can take strange forms. And you will remember the tooth. The tooth. You will remember the tooth.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago

Tucker is our most famous right-winger. That's basically it. He can say whatever the hell he wants, due to our first amendment, which protects both freedom of speech and freedom of the press. This includes a freedom to willfully lie, unfortunately, unless one has been placed under oath.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

But it shouldn't allow him to call what he does "news" or "journalism". Him, and others like him, should have bumpers before and after every segment that says "the views expressed are purely the opinion of the host and do not necessarily reflect reality or facts" and not at the breakneck speed they used to do those car dealer and drug commercial disclaimers.

[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 32 points 9 months ago

That actually existed until Reagan repealed it. That paved the way for Rush Limbaugh and the rest snowballed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine

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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He has just posted a video of him receiving gifts from the enemy, and he is giving aid to the enemy. This is not speech, this is an attack on America's interests.

It's one thing to campaign in the US and say "I like it when Putin genocides Ukrainians", but it's another thing to be paid by a country that we're indirectly at war with, and provide publishing and broadcasting services to their president, a man who is on the US Sanction list. The illegal thing here is not the speech, it's the business transaction.

Subpoena Tucker's emails and phone and prosecute for illegal business transactions.

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[-] AirDevil@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago

You know when you're at a park, see a dog, feel something squish under your foot, and then pick up your fooh to look at it? Yeah, exactly like that but in human form

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

My view as an American is that Tucker Carlson is a traitor, white supremacist, and known propagandist, fuck that guy, in the ass, with a cactus.

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[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The part where he claims to have asked Bill Clinton if Russia could join NATO was hilarious, whether he ever asked Clinton or not. Other than that most of the interview was "We're just reclaiming Russian land from over a century ago" and "China is the real enemy".

[-] eighthourlunch@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago

The only way I'd watch Tucker Carlson on purpose is in a cage fight with Mike Tyson. Pay-per-view is fine, but I'll travel if I have to.

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

I can't get over the complete lack of a chin.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Which one?

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago

My take is that Poland and Latvia need to secure their borders. Soon

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[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

Remember when Lee Harvey Oswald defected to russia? And then changed his mind? I forget what happened after that.

Yep. Mmm hmmm.

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago

Useful Idiot.

[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Outright fascist.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

“Putin, what is your idea of a perfect Sunday?”

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I was expecting the interview to be over tea on the balcony.

[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Cucker Tarlson bringing us the “real” story. Putin is worried about slanted journalists not agreeing with his narrative, gets the biggest softball pitcher ever and can’t even talk around his ego. Mad cringe.

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

The article says absolutely nothing about what Putin said

[-] ralphio@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I watched, but it truly is a bunch of rambling.

Putin pushed the CIA sniper incitement conspiracy theory, but didn't present evidence.

On the Nazi thing, he seems to be pivoting to he invaded because Ukraine doesn't have strong enough laws to prevent Nazi speech. Again not very compelling.

He again brings up the conflict pre-invasion in east UA, but fails to mention that Russia was backing the insurgents.

He brings up that the change of power in 2014 wasn't done to the letter of the UA constitution, but fails to mention that the current government clearly has a popular mandate.

He rehashes all the arguments that the West has been the aggressor since the fall of the USSR with NATO expansion.

Other than that it was pretty off topic. Tucker doesn't press him much at all, and when he does Putin deflects and Tucker gives up.

Overall nothing you wouldn't expect.

ETA: just remembered, this was kind of strange. The Nord Stream pipeline blasts were brought up and it was one of the few things that Tucker pushed him on for evidence that UA/US were behind it, but Putin doesn't want to talk evidence. It's kinda weird since this might be the one point where Russia has some ground to stand on, but Putin just defects. Maybe he doesn't want to set a precedent that evidence is required.

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[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This line of critique is wrongheaded and empowers Tucker. Putin already commands a platform far above Tucker's, a media figure cannot provide a bigger platform for Putin than the one he already has. Many liberal journalists have interviewed Putin without facing this critique, it's applied here because Tucker is a reactionary shithead.

The better critique is that you have for-profit entertainment companies capitalizing on this, and how that affects the content.

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