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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The White House threw cold water on the prospect of a sit-down between President Biden and Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), arguing Wednesday that there’s nothing to negotiate and the Speaker should bring a bipartisan national security funding bill up for a vote.

“What is there to negotiate? Really, truly, what is the one-on-one negotiation about, when he’s been presented with exactly what he asked for?” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a briefing with reporters.

“He’s negotiating with himself. He’s killing bills on his own,” she continued. “And if he were to put that bill that just came out of the Senate — the national security supplemental that doesn’t have border security in it because he said he didn’t want it, he changed his mind — it would pass. It would pass in a bipartisan way.

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 97 points 9 months ago

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.....or agree to a meeting with him so he can blame his incompetency on you.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

There isn't a win here. Meet with Biden? "BiDeN iS bEiNg UnReAsOnAbLe!"

Biden rebuffs? "BiDeN wOn'T eVeN nEgOtIaTe!"

The Republican party isn't about playing fair.

[-] Spitzspot 75 points 9 months ago

I.e. you shit your bed now sleep in it.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 39 points 9 months ago

Too bad the electorate won't take notice, because democrats suck at framing and marketing.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 14 points 9 months ago

Dems dominate every election so far. Why do people keep saying that like they don't?

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

The Dems lost control of the house at mid-terms, and they only have a razor-thin margin in the Senate of 51-49 if you count the 3 independents as Dems (which is fair as they caucus together).

I don't see any domination, at least on a national level.

[-] holycrap@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Gerrymandering is a hell of a drug

[-] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There also hasn't been a test of it on the national level yet. The November election will be that test. Some of the little elections that have been popping up since the Supreme Court's abortion ruling have gone hard for Democrats when we might not otherwise expect it to. It still remains to be seen if that pans out on a larger scale.

The thing about gerrymandering is that there is a trap built into the math. The way it works is to give your opponent a few very safe districts (like +40 for them), and then give yourself a long list of fairly safe districts (like +15 for you). However, if the vote trends hard for your opponent, those fairly safe districts are no longer safe and you lose everything. This is a real possibility with how badly votes have gone for the GOP in those smaller elections, but we'll have to see.

If just one of Trump's criminal trials hands down a guilty verdict before the election, it becomes a likely possibility.

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Oh yes of course that all makes sense, but it's also all just speculation. The Dems have not dominated yet. In more than the 3 decades I've been alive, the Dems have only had a filibuster-proof majority of Congress, plus the presidency, for a handful of months.

I've seen them win the popular vote and lose the presidency twice.

I hope the Dems do dominate and shift the Overton window left. But I think we also need to be careful about the expectations and narratives carried online. Fascists love to spread the lie that the Dems have been in control for decades and accomplished nothing. So saying Dems have dominated elections when they haven't (at least not nationally) is dangerous.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

The reason it's a domination is because historically, the party in the white House loses seats in Congress during mid term elections. Did Democrats lose seats in the house? Yes, but Republicans barely gained a majority, so not a large loss.in the Senate? Democrats gained even more control which is the exact opposite direction it should have gone.

That in conjunction with abortion being a hot button issue that Democrats across the board support, and the electorate (even in conservative states) has supported as well doesn't bode well for Republicans.

Lastly, Republicans are a mess in the house which isn't good at giving reasons for the electorate continue to vote for you.

We'll see how things go though.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 16 points 9 months ago

They don't dominate enough to overcome the structural advantages Republicans have due to our fucked-up quasi-democratic system designed at a time when everyone assumed state and local issues would be far more important than ideology.

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

get fucked loser

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What a clown. Johnson is such a weasel.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

"There's going to be no second negotiation, you sad little hobbit"

  • WH, probably
[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

I'm sure he can console himself with beating off to some porn that he knows his son is also watching.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

The Senate earlier this month unveiled a bipartisan border security package to go along with national security funds for Ukraine, Israel and Indo-Pacific allies. But Johnson declared that bill dead on arrival in the House, instead urging Biden to take executive action.

The Senate this week overwhelmingly passed national security funding without the border provisions, but Johnson again signaled the bill would not receive a vote in the House because it lacked desired border provisions.

That's all you really need to know about these dumb fucks.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Little Mikey "Moses" will part the sea for only one person - his orange lord and savior

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Well, Johnson has COVID.

[-] autotldr 7 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The White House threw cold water on the prospect of a sit-down between President Biden and Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.

), arguing Wednesday that there’s nothing to negotiate and the Speaker should bring a bipartisan national security funding bill up for a vote.

Jean-Pierre noted Biden met with Johnson and other congressional leaders at the White House in January to discuss aid for Ukraine in its war against Russia, as well as other national security funding the administration had pushed for.

But Johnson declared that bill dead on arrival in the House, instead urging Biden to take executive action.

Deputy press secretary Andrew Bates suggested in a statement Thursday that Johnson might be “feeling heat and grasping for an escape hatch” in the wake of a Democratic victory in a special House election in New York and after some members said the national security supplemental would pass if it were put up for a vote.

“While politics may make the Speaker feel compelled to side with dictators, this is still a democracy and he owes the country a clean vote.”


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[-] Desistance@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

What a joke. He is out of his element. Biden doesnt have to negotiate anything. He got everything he wanted and still plays around.

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