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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

An online fundraiser for former President Donald Trump has racked up $84,354 out of a $355 million target in just 24 hours following the final judgement in his civil fraud trial in New York.

On Friday, Trump was fined roughly $355 million by New York Judge Arthur Engoron following a monthslong trial. The trial was to determine how much Trump and his associates would pay after New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a lawsuit in September 2022 accusing the former president, his two adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.

The former president was also barred from doing business in New York for three years. Other defendants in the case also faced financial penalties and were banned from doing business in New York for periods of time. Meanwhile, Trump, who is the GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has denied any wrongdoing and claims the case was politically motivated.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 221 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Any Trump supporters out there, I want you to think about something.

One of the reasons you originally supported Trump is that he was supposedly rich enough to fund his own campaign. Then you sent him - supposedly a man worth $10 billion at one point - piles of money. He begged you for it over and over. He needed your help to fight the system, to "stop the steal," to "make America great again," and you gladly opened your wallets without ever wondering why a billionaire needed your money and couldn't fund his campaigns on his own.

That billionaire now has a GoFundMe. Roll that around in your head. He has a GoFundMe because he can't (or won't) spend his own earned income as a billionaire real-estate tycoon to settle judgments against him that - by his own claims - amount to roughly 1/20th his net worth.

Why? Try to explain why in a way that doesn't make you sound like the world's biggest sucker and the victim of a con artist.

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 127 points 8 months ago

Any Trump supporters out there

Literally zero of them browse here. Your message is simply echoing in here. You should post it to Truth Social or Hexbear or whatever shithole they peruse and let us know here what their replies are.

[-] painfulasterisk@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago

You know what will happen, the post will be deleted and the account will be banned.

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[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Based on my experience... Nextdoor

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Too relatable.

I made an account to browse neighborhood news. If someone loses a cat or dog, I do want to be on the lookout. Haven't added a single friend there. I'm just there to observe and potentially help save a pet. But it's very "boomer" there, and in my experience (having lived here my whole life) every boomer is a Trump fan until proven otherwise. Every boomer goes to church every Sunday. They're all the literal stereotype, and almost half are the same person as the ones you see interviewed at rallies by liberal-leaning journalists.

[-] asterfield@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

A good argument can still be read and later used on by someone who does read here.

Or used by some future machine learning project.

All communication creates ripples

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[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 75 points 8 months ago

If those Trump supporters could read they would be very upset

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

Trump the billionaire welfare queen

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Just like all billionaires. Except that he’s not a billionaire.

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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 8 months ago

All conning and bs aside, wealthy mantra is "why use your money, when you can use someone else's?" Even if trump actually did have $10,000,000,000 in assets....Hell; even in cash, he'd still try and get other saps to pay for shit for his benefit. The guy is a d-bag.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Beyond that, the entire GoFundMe is against the terms and services of the EULA on GoFundMe. You aren't allowed to raise money for "alleged or actual crimes," since this is a legal judgement, it's not just an alleged crime. It fits the definition of an actual crime.

The golden Trump shoes are actually legal money laundering.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If my math is correct, at that rate, he only has a little less than 11 years to go to raise the target amount!

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 8 months ago

Nah, I read in another thread that interest on it was beyond that, but at about 5%, that's nearly 50k/day.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 8 months ago

Compound interest is complicated but I figure at least 30 years if $84k per day holds up. Of course Don only has a few years left so why would the donations keep coming?

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[-] Atom@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago

The GoFundMe is run by a random follower of his. Remember that guy who was raising money to pay for the wall and then just took the money and disappeared?

[-] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 23 points 8 months ago

I wish I would have thought of it first this time 😔

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago

That was Steve Bannon, and he received a presidential pardon for it.

[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

It was Steve Bannon and Brian Kolfage. Bannon was pardoned but Kolfage is sitting in FMC Rochester until 2027.

But this GoFundMe is by the wife of "financial influencer" Grant Cardone, who has been sued by investors for fraud multiple times. Also a Scientologist, so that tracks.

[-] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago

84K that isn't going to go into a superPAC, to another candidate, to the RNC, or get spent to campaign for trump.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Imagine being so stupid and depraved as to give money to help bail out a supposed billionaire (and rapist).

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 43 points 8 months ago

Oh man, they raised 0.024% of the judgement in 24 hours! ((84,000/350,000,000)*100 to yield percent)

If they manage to do that once a day every year, it'll only take them (350,000,000/84,000/365) 11 years to pay if off!

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

I wish I was unethical enough to grift the shit out of those rubes.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

Oh before he needed $355 million, now he only needs $355 million. That $84K is an unnoticeable drop in the bucket. 😂 😂 😂

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I thought Trump was worth billions. That's what he likes to tell everyone. $355 million should just be pocket change for him, right?

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[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

See, Russian money is currently tight because of the war. Bad timing orange old man.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Donny holding up a bucket waiting for the billionaires and millionaires who benefitted from his tax reform to trickle down in his direction:

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[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Perhaps the MAGA base is finally running out of money for their champion to piss away. Though if they had any more, I'm sure Trump would be willing to spend to his very last supporter.

[-] june@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

At this rate it’ll only take about 11 1/2 years to raise the full 355m.

[-] Lon3star@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

The rate of interest is close to $1M per week... So 84k/day won't even cover the interest he owes

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

If you count the $4 million that each of his sons owe and the interest already accrued they actually owe $464 million. It was a very bad day for the Trump crime family.

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[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 26 points 8 months ago

Man, i want some of that sweet rube money.

If hypothetically, i created a gofundme that said something along the lines of 'help support me support trump' and it had a bunch of weasel words that sounded supportive of him but just boiled down to me using the money to pay my bills while thinking about supportive scaffolding, would that be illegal?

[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 months ago

Plenty of dudes have already beaten you to the punch. They blast people with texts that all go to fake donor sites like winred.com that then beg you to make $3,300 donations.

Hell, winred.com is just as much the same scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIOrTvPdFwQ

Winred still operates.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Doesn't mean you can't make more.

With $15 (for domain and hosting), you too can funnel money from MAGA with a donation site to "help"!

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[-] naonintendois@programming.dev 11 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of when the PS3 first went on sale and people sold pictures of a PS3 on eBay. The title said it was a picture, the content said it was a picture, but people were impatient, didn't read and bought the auctions. I thought that was a bit manipulative then, but I would not feel bad if people did this to Trump supporters. IANAL but I don't think it's illegal as long as you don't say you'll do something and then not do it.

[-] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Assuming every day the same donations pour in, it'll take about 4,227 days:

355,000,000/84,000 = 4,226.19047619

That many days divided by 365 means about 11.5 years to reach that goal.

4,226.19047619/365 = 11.5786040444

77 + 11 =88, so he'll probably be 89 before he's out of debt, assuming no other financial penalties from lawsuits happen. Or he could declare bankruptcy...

[-] civylw@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

The debt goes up by a million dollars every week due to interest.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

“Fools and their money are soon parted.”

[-] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Still 84K too much

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago

I can't wait until he launches his competitor to Star Citizen.

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So if you divide it out, that’s 0.0023% of the fine.

Today’s goal is $600,000,000, we just need to sell enough magazine subscriptions and all of our food stamps. This is totally achievable! Now let’s get out there and support the TRUE 51TH PRESIDENT!

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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When you're funding your successful billionaire businessman president to pay his court fees on the same platform used to pay for people's medical bills do you ever think maybe capitalism might have failed us?

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

The goal, ha!

$45/avg grift (least this time the fund’s purpose isn’t buried in the fine print)

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Holy fuck the alleged billionaire needs a Go fund me. Pull your finger out of your ass bud, you're spare parts.

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

I hope someone is carefully monitoring these donations to determine origin....

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