The reason cars became so popular in rural areas is that they're the thing that allows people who live there to be connected with their neighbors. They divide densely populated areas and connect low population areas. The relationship cars have to people's lives is incredibly complex and putting forth solutions like this will alienate people from joining the movement. Advocating for walkable cities makes sense because rural communities aren't going to be atomized by regulations like that, and thus it becomes easier to implement.
This post is talking exclusively about cities, I'm not sure why this argument about rural areas comes up so often when it's not relevant.
allows people who live there to be connected with their neighbors
Why do you say that? Losing connection with community is the exact reason the Amish ban cars. You rested your whole argument on this, too, so you'll need to convince me a little harder that up is down.
You've just proven their point. Isolationists ban cars.
The Amish isolate themselves from others for religious reasons. Most people don't want to do that.
There is a small city in Georgia, USA that does this. Tom Scott video on it
I knew a guy that grew up there, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and was kinda shocked that all the other folks we worked with (most of us from other parts of Georgia than Peachtree City) didn't have golf carts growing up. Actually seems like a cool idea, although it only works if you can afford a golfcart
Tbf, the current system only works if you can afford a car which is typically more expensive than a golf cart
True, but all these people also have both, often multiple of both, it's a pretty well off part of metro Atlanta
Needs AC & Heat & Doors/Windows. Weather is a thing that people need to deal with. Not everywhere is 70 and sunny every day.
Yeah I find many of these not car cars have a very narrow used case, making them impracticable to scale.
Never change fuckcars, never change.
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Already exists, Citroen Ami. It's a neat little idea. If you live in buildings, dozen apartments might have 3 vehicles always ready to go. Your key is your phone, as is your dashboard and the rest of the instrumentation. With range of 50 to 70km, it's good enough to run around the city for the day and get it charged over night. It's an interesting concept which people are not going to swallow because they need 6T coal rollers.
My state allows towns to decide if they'll allow golf carts to drive on roads. It's great for small towns with lots of older people.
Ew.
Sounds similar to a mobility scooter, but more practical for carrying much heavier loads.
I'd prefer a cargobike personally, but most of the ones I like are too heavy to move when you're not riding it, let alone with a 1/4 ton load. Those also can't fit into most apartments, you've got to leave them outside or in bicycle storage...
This kart/NEV thing kind of seems like a good compromise, with quadricycle vans possibly being an alternative option if you aren't carrying people
I agree that a bike is generally preferable, but an NEV seems a good compromise for people who need to move multiple people at once or more cargo than a cargo bike can carry. Max one of these per household + bike for everyone + walkable, transit-oriented development seems like a suitable compromise that would be a significant improvement over the status quo.
Just based on the picture, do you expect this to be used anywhere that gets a decent chance of snow in the winter?
People still walk in those places too.
Give it some vinyl doors and you'll be fine in winter time.
This used to be my point against winter bicycles, but when I think about it, these kinds of individual transports shouldn’t be used for long distances anyway, and you’ll still need good winter clothing for walking to the destination after parking anyway.
I just decided to improve my winter gear, and that means I can walk, or bike, or use one of these electric golf carts, or whatever I choose.
Exactly. I'm in Canada, and I often ride my electric scooter to work in the winter, and many ride bikes in the winter here, too. The windshield on a glorified golf cart plus proper winter clothing is all you really need, although maybe detachable side flaps to keep out the wind might help, too.
And I wear full coat in a car anyways for the exact reason you mention: I still need to walk between car and final destination.
Just get the AWD trim with a winter tire package. Keep chains handy too
This looks incredibly American. As far as small vehicles go this is still roughly the size of a small car, granted it probably weighs less(d safer), but storing it still requires a fair amount of dedicated parking. An E-bike or even better a pushbike seems like a more reasonable choice then.
tfw Americans realize that smaller cars were better all along
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