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About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 115 points 10 months ago

I guess I got to be the first year to say it: this is fucking horrible, and we have to do everything we can in our power to stop this.

[-] Blooper@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

The comment directly below this one reads like propaganda straight from Moscow. I'm very glad to see it down-voted. Blaming blatant authoritarianism and extremely dangerous rhetoric on "old people" seems like a pretty obvious diversion from the actual culprits: the entire Republican party who is sleepwalking into a legit second coup attempt. They're losing political power and have abandoned the idea of democracy. The fact that they're unable or unwilling to drown this Nazi rhetoric in the bathtub speaks volumes. They are openly supporting authoritarianism. Not "old people". Republicans.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago

Posobiec, who helped popularize the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC’s opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.

They’re not sending their brightest, folks. Many such examples.

Seriously though, I didn’t have a pizzagate guy openly advocating fascism at CPAC on my doomsday bingo card, yet here we are.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 10 months ago

There's a non-zero chance that they actually are sending their brightest.

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[-] Teon@kbin.social 69 points 10 months ago

Republicans are criminals, cheaters, liars and traitors.
And I have proof, just watch and listen to everything they do.
They HATE America and want to rule it with a sick 2000 year old genocidal religion.
Always vote for the candidate to does things to help Americans, and chooses human rights over fascist control laws.

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[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 60 points 10 months ago

Isn't this what the second amendment is actually for?

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it’s what the whole fucking constitution is for

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 59 points 10 months ago

"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.

Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

It's unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.

But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.

Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance.

Excuse me, wtf, how it's even real: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRF4nUIRAAA

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Prabowo is a fucking monster, and much like other worldwide monsters, he was trained at Fort Bragg by US special forces.

Then even The US said "This guy is too war crimey even for us. We're going to deport you, but do keep in touch. Especially about those East Timor rebels. They look suspiciously anti-capitalist".

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[-] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Some of those who work forces...

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Sir this is a conservative oligarchy not a Wendy's. Rules are only for anyone we declare to be too far left.

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[-] anon987@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

Time to start killing fascists.

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Italian here, sometimes I wonder why we ever stopped, it should be an ongoing thing

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[-] himmyguap@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago
[-] Numberone@startrek.website 33 points 10 months ago

Does anyone have a link to this actual speech, whenever I hear something this damning, I assume something is wildly out of context.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Here you go.

LIVE REPLAY: CPAC Day Two 4:48:38

edit: never mind, that is his CPAC speech where he promises to destroy to democracy

edit: People only seem to be reporting on the clip linked in the article that was of the panel in that conference room. There doesn't seem to be a recording of the entire panel online currently.

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[-] don@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

Wonder what they’d do if we started proclaiming and raucously celebrating “The End of the Republic”.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

Lmao I can imagine some of them are thinking democracy = democrats.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 26 points 10 months ago

How the fuck is this a thing

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

They want a crowd and they cheer the thrill of battle. Because they believe they are on the right side.

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I still can't understand how the political left could accept that their opponents dub themselves "right". Do they not understand that "right" also means "correct"? It's a marketing failure from the get go, regardless of etymology. We should start calling the political right something different, like "wrong". Or "party of assholes". Change my view.

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 23 points 10 months ago

200 years ago, there would be a rope shortage right about now.

[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I'll take him at his word. I don't doubt he'd follow through with what he's saying.

But also the headline sucks. He has a heavy sarcasm to his voice like he's mocking liberal's and the media's portrayal of him and "rabid cheers" isn't how I would describe the sound of the reaction in the video.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah this is the same kind of thing they did at another one of these events in the past with the whole "Ladies and gentlemen, we are all domestic terrorists." thing. It was meant as a joke to make fun of what the liberals were saying but at the same time it wasn't entirely inaccurate.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I used to get scared to talk about weed on the phone. You don't disparage a public figure with a hint of violence for fear...

How TF is this not enough to lock these motherfuckers up? This is the God damn United States of America and these treasonists are threatening our government. Fuck "soft Democrats" - this isn't about policy. These criminals are promising a coup against our democracy. Why aren't they in jail? I'm seriously asking. Where the fuck is law enforcement????

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 16 points 10 months ago

There are a bunch of Supreme Court rulings which basically said the KKK can advocate for violence in general so long as they don't lay out specifics. That's what these folks hide behind

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, as long as they're abiding by the rigorous standards of the KKK then. Clearly an upstanding group of people to emulate.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Holy shit. When was that??

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The biggie is Brandenburg vs Ohio, from 1969

Where that really falls down is when you have social media algorithms selectively showing inflammatory speech to the audience most likely to act on it. This means that inflammatory speech which wouldn't have caused violence in the 1960s is incredibly likely to do so now.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Basically MAGA Republicans showing their true faces. They know that they don't have much of a future without cheating or dropping democracy altogether.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Republicans, the party of treason.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

They are taking themselves down.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

This should disqualify any of these people running. These are treasonous bastards who should not be allowed to participate in democratic elections.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

"That probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivins.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

If American Republicans can't win using democracy, then they'll just show their true colours and go full on fascist. Nothing new here. We saw it with the 2020 Capital Hill riot and we'll definitely see it if Trump is elected again, except it could become temporarily permanent.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

FIFTH. COLUMN.

The Republican Party and the con movement is nothing more than a fifth column in this country, if not just outright terrorists. And every serious journalist should state that fact as often as possible.

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.

  • Will Durant
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