640
Trump is disqualified from Illinois ballot, judge rules
(www.reuters.com)
Illinois hates Florida nazis.
I didn't even need to click on this. :)
pause at 27 seconds and you'll see DeSantis's uncle/bro/cousin behind the main guy
This doesn't even matter. Unless he's barred from the general election ballot, he's already won the GOP primaries. Haley just won't cave until she's forced to.
Haley just won’t cave until she’s forced to.
Haley is clearly staying in for the likely reality that Trump is found guilty and the small chance that the Republican party chooses not to have a convicted federal criminal as their candidate. She knows based on the numbers she has no shot, but she's angling to stay in so she can swoop in when Trump is disqualified.
How likely that is to happen to up to interpretation, but it's pretty clear at this point that's Haley's game plan.
Haley is clearly staying in for the likely reality that Trump is found guilty and the small chance that the Republican party chooses not to have a convicted federal criminal as their candidate
And because Trump is old and unhealthy and could pass away
Also possibilities: -Trump passes away -Trump leaves the country -Trump runs but loses, and Haley gets "told you so" status as the GOP likely tosses Trump under the bus for delivering so many consecutive losses (2018, his own in 2020, and to some extent the weak 2022 performance can be attributed to his election denial and the party rallying behind that). If the GOP loses in 2024, then I could easily see the party decide they must go 'beyond Trump', and politicians that consistently looked 'anti-Trump' may be in a strong position in that scenario.
Seeing as she is in her early 50s, which is downright an infant by the standards of the presidential race, she can afford to run a long game of prepping for a likely 2028 race.
Of course if Trump wins in 2024, her political career won't go anywhere, but it's a fair bet to plan for the contingency of him losing.
If current disqualifications hold, Trump will have lost access to 33 electoral college votes and needs 270 to win. Assuming it's Trump vs Biden in the general, that's almost half a California.
2020 went 306-232. Trump won 2016 304-227 partly due to faithless electors.
At the current pace and schedule of the impending Trump trials, and after accounting for judgments already rendered and how those are affecting Republican party bankrolls, it's gonna be a blowout. He's on track to lose another 3 dozen electors by October and that's guessing hyper conservatively
Correct me if I'm wrong but being removed from the primary ballot has no real standing for general election. It doesn't matter that he can't be on the primary when the GOP has chosen him already. It's just posturing. He hasn't lost any electoral votes.
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong. However, it's still massively consequential because if he can be taken off the ballot for the primary, he will also be taken off the ballot for the general. It will be interesting to see how SCOTUS rules. Will they decide to create a new legal test at the federal level? Will they throw it back to Congress? Since they supposedly love states rights so much, will they leave it up to each state to decide?
Each option is incredibly consequential. Option 1 allows the Supreme Court to disqualify candidates. Option 2 turns it into a political contest, like an impeachment proceeding. Option 3 is absolute chaos, since we know some states will disingenuously retaliate by removing Biden from their ballot regardless of whether there is any merit to an insurrection charge.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(8 replies)
Trump was never going to win Illinois anyway.
Yes but we also have this going on.
And what do these people think Trump would do about Israel?
They don't care. They just don't want to be an accomplice by voting for Joe Biden.
They're fine if their inaction leads to Trump winning and fucking up Palestine even more.
At least their 'conscience' will be clear.
Dumbfucks.
I'm baffled as to how people can knowingly make things worse and feel good about because what they did was "right". The whole idea that an action can be right despite making things worse for everyone is completely alien to me, but I know that's literally how some people think.
load more comments
(1 replies)
If they are voting in the primary, I doubt they will skip the general election. It's more than likely a reminder to the administration that their voter base is not happy with the current decision making. If they are protesting stuff like this, they are most likely D voters anyway (over 90 % of D voters are pro-ceasefire vs 53? % for the R voterbase.
Yeah I'm having a very hard time feeling any comfort with that concept strongly looming.
load more comments
(1 replies)
is it a blue state ?
Very much so, but like many other US states, the urban area (Chicago) is more liberal and the rural areas are conservative. But on balance the whole state is very Blue.
Southern Illinois may as well be it's own state. Feels like you're going back in time to some bizzaro land hellscape mix of 1955 and 2005.
Accurate description, but it's quicker to just say "may as well be Indiana".
Idk man, I've been to some real Hoosier places in Indiana, and none have them have came close to just how awful places like Cairo, IL feel to be in. It makes Gary look not depressing.
Yeah, 80% of the state's population is clustered around Chicago and St Louis. The rest of the state is red af but sparsely populated.
Ya
Okay then. Well, it is still good news.
Crab rave? 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Nice
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
640 points (99.5% liked)
politics
19107 readers
3256 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Register To Vote
• Citizenship Resource Center
• Congressional Awards Program
• Federal Government Agencies
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• The White House
• U.S. House of Representatives
• U.S. Senate
Partnered Communities:
• News
• World News
• Business News
• Ask Politics
• Military News
• Global Politics
• UK Politics
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS