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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 74 points 8 months ago

"Dafne Moran Toha, defending the 11-year-old boy, said his behaviour was due to his "lack of maturity" and "very young age"."

Fuck that bullshit. There are hundreds of millions of young people with little maturity across the entire globe, and hardly any of them decide it will be a good idea to murder small animals. These boys are mentally ill in some form or another and need therapy or meds of some sort.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 11 points 8 months ago

When I was that age I cried inconsolably over a bluegill I caught that swallowed the hook. Imagining the pain I caused it when they cut the line and threw it back was a lot for me and the adults around me thought it was hilarious that I cared. People trying to defend this by saying kids don't have empathy or understand what they're doing are full of shit. If that kid doesn't have empathy it's not because he's 11 it's because there's something very wrong with him.

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 60 points 8 months ago

It usually starts with animal cruelty when they're young. Then they move to people when they grow older.

Sociopathic killers in the making.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 8 months ago

Or younger. The killers of James Bulger were 10.

[-] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago
[-] Tweak@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago

Yeah a sociopathic killer would be like Trump killing his political opponents.

[-] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

There's no such thing as a "sociopathic killer".

[-] Tweak@feddit.uk -1 points 8 months ago

My example was off the mark now that I look at it, but your statement is equally flawed.

A sociopathic killer would be one that kills through careless and irresponsible behaviour, it's just there's no use for such definition as it's already suitably covered by manslaughter. A better political example might be: Boris Johnson is a sociopath, and as the result of his careless and irresponsible behaviour many more people died during the pandemic. Meanwhile a psychopath might be seen as someone who intentionally kills with a similar disregard.

So, to fix my example, Boris and Trump killing through reckless policy would be sociopathic killing, while Trump killing his political opponents is probably more psychopathic killing.

Technically though, there's no such thing as a psychopathic killer either, as in clinical terminology both psychopathy and sociopathy refer to people living with Antisocial Personality Disorder.^1 Most mental health professionals won't differentiate between the two nor use either as a diagnosis, but some psychologists or researchers consider psychopathy as an extreme form of Antisocial Personality Disorder.^2 However the actual diagnosis used these days is apparently Antisocial Personality Disorder.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 55 points 8 months ago

and although the boys were "of good character"

HAHAHAHA is this fucking satire???

[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I think they meant that the boys were of good character, besides the breaking and entering, vandalism, property damage, theft, cruelty to animals, and massacre.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 40 points 8 months ago

They entered the areas they should not be in and can be seen throwing animals around, slamming them on the floor, stamping on them

Ms Toha said the boys "did not have any intention to hurt" the animals

What were they trying to do?

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe they missunderstood. And though all animals go to heaven. Looked around earth. And decided they were helping.

Nah its the sort of bulshit statement only a lawyer can make.. without throwing up in the judges lap.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The first paragraph - PETA would approve 🤣

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

As an atheist. I'm pretty sure tge flying spaghetti monster boils and strains all deceased equally.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago

If you follow Richard Dawkins you will evolve into darwinclaus after the next nothingness

[-] FatLegTed@feddit.uk 25 points 8 months ago

Good character my arse. Lock them in with some tigers.

[-] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 23 points 8 months ago

"What happened?"

"Oh he drop kicked a hedgehog"

"And he's 11?"

"Yes"

"Right well morally I believe he should be eaten alive by a tiger or a lion"

"You might be a psychopath"

"So might he"

"Great"

"Great"

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This reminds me of the time someone broke into Belfast Zoo and started throwing the animals to the lions

[-] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago
[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago

On Monday a training centre in Londonderry for people with special needs was attacked by vandals.

They decapitated a chipmunk and stole three others from the Ashbrook vocational centre.

Mad.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 months ago

ITT: Vegan trolls using this thread as an excuse to attack people for caring about this incident but eat meat, rather than discussing how horrible this was. FFS people, not everything has to be about your agenda.

[-] autotldr 10 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Two boys aged 11 and 12 have pleaded guilty to cruelty charges after more than 20 animals were killed during a burglary at an environmental college.

The court heard the boys also stole various animals from the environmental college including ferrets, guinea pigs and three snakes.

Prosecutor Vijay Khuttan said CCTV footage, which was not shown in court, displayed "extreme animal cruelty", and although the boys were "of good character" the offences represented a "significant jump into criminality".

He added he disputed the basis of the boys' guilty pleas, saying: "They are absolving themselves of practically any responsibility for the injuries and deaths of the animals."

Ms Toha said the boys "did not have any intention to hurt" the animals and her client was "very remorseful", adding that his actions were "completely out of character".

However, Dr Basra added that the court felt a hearing to discuss the basis of plea was not necessary because of the age of the boys, and the fact they were first-time offenders who "pleaded guilty on the first possible occasion".


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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago

Oh fuck off, “good character” and “no intention to hurt the animals”.

Little shits should be locked in a lion enclosure.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Killing animals shows you don't have good character, it's literal proof of the opposite.

[-] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 9 points 8 months ago
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