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submitted 8 months ago by deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

The Fediverse might be getting their own mashups of Tiktok, YouTube, and Vine sooner than anyone thought, thanks to the work of one prolific dev spearheading an effort. The best part? He's helping other projects in the space, too.

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[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 8 months ago

Vine 3.0 let's try this again

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago
[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago
[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago
[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Never met her

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 36 points 8 months ago

Available Soon.

Dansup is well known for making grand announcements and delivering on them very late or never. I think it was more than two years ago that he announced federated groups for Pixelfed and still nothing. So I wouldn't get my hopes up yet.

[-] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago

He is a bit bombastic, and has a habit of biting off more than he can chew sometimes. I think these side-projects are ultimately useful, though, and probably help fend off boredom or burnout. Maybe he gets better at coding and design through doing that, I dunno.

Regardless, he's continues to do a lot of great development work.

[-] ajsadauskas@aus.social 16 points 8 months ago

@deadsuperhero @nutomic I think the concept of a TikTok on the Fediverse is solid. And if short form videos help to get more people on the Fedi, and engaging with the Fedi, that's a good thing in my book.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

i still disagree that we should get as many people as possible on the Fediverse.
That's a good way for this place to become a hateful shit hole like so many other places on the internet.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

Aren't we still pretty far from being anywhere near that big?

[-] frogmint@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Sup messenger too, but it's on hold due to EU regulatory challenges

And I agree, Dan is a great asset to fediverse development

[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

i think he stopped working on groups because mastodon officially announced groups shortly after gis preview. not that they have delivered it yet (release target, q4 2023 - an no word for 2 years now).

[-] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

He's periodically shown updates on it. From talking to him, there are a number of challenges:

  • Being blocked by other features, like a UI refactor
  • Compatibility with other existing implementations (less of a problem now with the Group Federation FEP by @nutomic@lemmy.ml)
  • Wanting to include Private Groups
  • Bringing in moderation, assignment, and delegation tools for groups.
  • Dealing with unrelated issues pertaining to the day-to-day maintenance
  • Needing to break out new experiments in a branch to see how well an idea actually works

I think the biggest thing is that he probably does spread himself pretty thin at times, and is still learning how to rely on community pull requests and contributions. It can be a really hard thing to do, especially if you feel the need to provide the creative direction for how things ought to work.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I wanted to use his mlencryoted messenger :(

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

He's still working on his messengers. It's been delayed because of new EU regulations surrounding messaging clients.

[-] Cwilliams@beehaw.org -4 points 8 months ago

Little baby Elon...

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 32 points 8 months ago

Hmm, unless the plan is to have a lot of reposts from TikTok, the real difficulty of these platforms is to have super easy to use video editing tools in the mobile app. And that is really a project all on it's own and requires a entirely different skillset.

[-] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago

You know, that's actually a really good point. Dansup tends to iterate on certain parts of his apps several times over, like how Pixelfed handles image uploads and filters prior to posting. It might be that just going with the simplest possible thing makes sense for right now, until a better approach can be devised.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago

Can't wait to never try it.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Well now's the time if TikTok gets banned.

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago

Perhaps it will be the third great migration?

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 15 points 8 months ago

Oh this is fantastic. It's definitely something that's been missing and been a conundrum in regards to figuring out how to sort it. Glad to see the PixelFed developer figured out how to do it.

[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 months ago

Hmh, not my cup of tea, but more variety is good, I think. Though hosting a popular instance might get pretty expensive.

[-] Constantine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Maybe it should've been integrated as a part of pixelfed like how reels are on instagram ? Because it can benifit on the aldready existing userbase and would be much less work all the servers have to inrease the file size allotment tho. Maybe that's not those userbase want idk never been there

[-] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

So, one interesting aspect here is that you can log into it with your existing Mastodon or Pixelfed account. Loops and Sup both seem to be building on the idea that you can use existing Fediverse accounts to log in, meaning you don't necessarily need to create a new account and navigate a new platform all over again.

[-] Constantine@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Hmm yeah i noticed lemmy is lacking on that idea.

[-] Delusion6903@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

They are going to need an algorithm if they want to keep people. The whole fediverse needs it for that matter. It makes for less work for the user base. User chosen or created is fine, but they need it.

[-] entropicshart@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Does this mean they finally fixed the issue of uploading video content from mobile?

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 8 months ago

You were supposed to bring balance to the Fediverse, not destroy it

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

how much would it cost to provide this endless stream of media? im guessing it would be very costly.

[-] guts@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Normies love short videos and I think this is a good alternative.

[-] fannymcslap@lemmy.ml -3 points 8 months ago

Oh for fucks sake

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