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The best defense, it seems, is a cheap EV of our own.
No shit. Proving yet again that auto industry executives are complete morons waiting for another bailout.
Ford didn't need or take a bailout.
They did ask for one from Congress, and when asked during testimony if they requested money from Mexico or China, the response was, "No, We're profitable in those countries."
But Ford mortgaged their brand instead and came out on top.
I just read a whole article about the price of a car and don't know the price of the car. "Journalism"
it's discounted
Oh boy, that makes me want it! Take all of my money!
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And even a replying comment doesn't say the price.
Yeah...sure it is. My brother ordered one 3 years ago and it was delivered last year - during which Ford hiked the price twice, removed features from the trim package, etc.
Each time he was given an opportunity to back out with a full refund of his deposit.
I'm pretty sure they were just trying to cut down the number of required deliveries while they figured out production problems - this discount is probably just returning to pre-hike pricing.
Quick google says $40k. Not expensive, but definitely not a "cheap" EV.
From what I can tell, it’s still in the ~$50,000 range.
I don’t really see how that can be considered ’cheap’.
But why is it so ugly?
Yeah, I don't know why everything is moving toward that ugly crossover form. They're ugly as sin IMO.
It's the carcinization of automobiles. Tall station wagons are simply the most practical shape for cars to be.
Frankly, the thing that bothers me about the Mustang Mach E isn't the shape, but rather the fact that they desecrated the name of what's supposed to be a low-slung coupe.
Frankly, the thing that bothers me about the Mustang Mach E isn’t the shape, but rather the fact that they desecrated the name of what’s supposed to be a low-slung coupe.
The shape bothers me a lot, but this bothers me more. They could have just called it the Bronco. Or the Fairlane.
But if cars are all going to look like that in the future I guess I'm never buying a car again.
I would hate this car much less than I do if they had called it anything BUT a Mustang.
It's much more like a mustang than a bronco. Regardless, If Ford wants to call it a mustang, it's a mustang.
As much as I hate it, having a 50 year old blue collar welder with 2 Chevy trucks parked out front come over and get excited about "The new Mustang" made me realize how perfect that decision was. People can complain about it all they want, but I don't think it would have been anywhere close to being as successful otherwise.
Nobody lost money underestimating the American consumer
I think it's worse than them being ugly. I think the dimensions and visibility for crossovers makes people worse drivers. Massive blind spots, zero rear visibility, huge amounts of body roll in curves, and the danger of rollover are all worse in this body scheme.
It's so bad that they have to add technology like rear cameras, BLIS, and traction control to attempt to fix it because they can't just make a car with reasonable dimensions and good sight lines.
The MachE doesn’t really suffer from any of those issues. I had no major blind spots, in fact smaller than what I’ve been used to. Rear view mirrors were very effective, it’s a “Mustang like suspension” so it was super stable, to the point of uncomfortably stiff. With the battery pack underneath, the center of gravity makes a roll over extremely unlikely.
Your points are accurate for many other CUVs, especially ICE ones. But not the MachE. It has its own issues mind you. Specifically the suspension being so bumpy it induces car sickness. A, frankly, obscene amount of power which tempts bad driving habits. And the worst central control system I’ve ever experienced.
I'm glad the MachE doesn't have those issues, but you raise a good point about it having an obscene amount of power. A lot of EVs have way too much power for the average person.
You just listed a bunch of features that are standard on most vehicles these days.
And the reason they're standard is because the cars aren't built correctly
Rear cameras were mandated after a bunch of kids playing behind their parents car were run over, traction control exists because road conditions change throughout the year in most areas and blind spot monitors exist because all cars have blind spots and it reduces collisions. Saying all cars are built incorrectly with zero supporting argument isn't much of an argument. Cars are safer than they've ever been and much of the sight line issues are related to reinforced pillars to protect occupants in a crash.
The yellow is indeed bad. But it's still one of the better looking EVs...
But why is it so ugly?
He literally just told you
I think they told someone else…
I much rather take my old car and pay to have the ICE engine taken out and replaced with a crate EV motor.
The problem is not the motor (as much) as it is where to put the batteries. Replacing just the gas tank on my tiny Subaru with a battery is not going to give the range I need.
Ya, unfortunately that's the problem. But the majority of people don't need to drive over 100 miles a day and most kits these days are over 100 now.
That take only works for families with multiple cars. A car would be pointless for me with a less than a 450km (280m) range.
It looks like a Tonka toy