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submitted 7 months ago by Kaboom@reddthat.com to c/conservative@lemm.ee

In theory, tax payer paid healthcare is a good idea. In theory.

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[-] Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A new mom died after giving birth at a Boston hospital. Was corporate greed to blame?

Spoiler: corporate greed was to blame. Private capitalist healthcare is a bad idea in theory -and in reality.

Edit: fun fact: the private equity firm that owns the hospital in this story is called Cerberus Capitol Management - named after the three headed hound that guards the gates of hell.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Hospitals shouldn’t be for profit in most cases.

[-] Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Interesting take! I'd be curious to hear any thoughts on the Friedman doctrine as it relates to healthcare, and in broader terms of social services or just in general.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Well I’d have to read up on it. In all fairness it doesn’t ring a bell. That’s why I like Australia’s system. Public safety net but private for those who want more. I think that’s the model America needs.

[-] Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Well now just hold on a gosh darned minute there Mr. Flippy Mcflopper, "A plumber should not be paying for your gender studies degree" and yet you want me to pay for treatment of people who gave themselves diabetes by eating too much heavily subsidized sugar?

Anyway if you are slowly coming around to democratic socialism thinking that's great and I won't tell anyone, but you should realize education is as important as healthcare to a functioning society.

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Is this post here because conservatives love seeing the disabled suffer?

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago

It's here because Canada is the only country in the world with tax payer paid healthcare. Wait, what? Most countries in the world have tax payer paid healthcare? I meant in North America. Wait, what? Mexico has tax payer paid healthcare too?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

And yet millions are coming to America. Way to promote the Mexican health care system. They love it so much they run across the border.

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Bro.. like half the people I know have gone to Mexico for Healthcare they can't get in the states because it's unaffordable. When I lived in AZ I used to go to Mexico to get my prescriptions filled for like 1/30th the cost of the same meds in America.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

I’ve never been to Mexico for medical nor have I known anyone who has. All I see is new articles of people dying from poor care when they go to Mexico

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

That’s probably because you only read fearmongering nationalist and racist media.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

Nah I don’t read much liberal media. I mainly stick to conservative sources and cnn. I avoid the liberal media due to all the racism.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Hah ha! Oh wait... this isn't satire?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lefties are obsessed with their racist beliefs. Everything is about race and putting people in boxes.

Conservatives don’t focus on race. We focus on people and how to make them better.

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/white-liberals-present-themselves-as-less-competent-in-interactions-with-african-americans

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 7 months ago

No, because liberals killed a disabled person with horrid policy. You got it backwards.

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago

Explain how a single patient death is a valid argument against the thousands (probably more) of times privatized, profit-driven healthcare in the US has done that or worse.

When you look at who is preserving and enabling this situation, it’s congressional conservatives. Look at their voting records. Review C-SPAN coverage and watch it actually happen. You cannot manipulate reality with online arguments, only accept/reject it.

What you have right here is a straw man argument. A single case is anecdotal, the trend however is much more important.

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 7 months ago

Holy shit this guy got banned!? What happened?

[-] BunkerBuster@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A mod's feelings got hurt. They're very emotional around here.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

He was spamming, check the modlog

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 7 months ago

I did I saw lol he was lol

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago

Admittedly I was because I caught on to the power tripping nature of this community’s mod.

But that’s how they want to run it so I’m back complying like a good little user and am just going to keep my thoughts to the comments section where that’s allowed.

You see, conservative opinions only work when being broadcasted while burying out dissenting voices. If those voices are too loud, too many people may not agree with conservatives.

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wasn't following y'alls conversation and I'm Not interested in having a political discussion either. I'm sick of politics online and I don't want to see it or talk about it all the fucking time.

Not sure what u mean nor am I gunna puck it apart and argue. Obviously I disagree. I consider myself conservative, and also an instance admin and I don't feel the need to 'take action'

Yall both honestly need to chill out lol calm down. Try to connect as just people dude not I'm a this and their a that.

Yall aren't gunna agree on shit so come on lol stop fighting eachother.

I mean you do you, this is just how it is with political shit. It's annoying. Anyway idk drink a beer

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I’m sick of politics online I am tried of it creeping into any discussion. There is a time and place for politics but not everything is political.

I like my Tesla and people act like I murdered someone.

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 6 months ago

It's annoying I know

[-] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you’re sick of politics online, why are you engaging in a political community?

I’ve made many good faith efforts with this person to have rational discussions and have even agreed with them on some points. Unfortunately they melts down and uses straw man arguments when proven wrong, sympathizes with sexual predators and victim blames consistently.

Apologies if it offends you, but you don’t have to be here either. I sense a lot of hostility here from dissenting opinions, it seems to be a trend.

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 months ago

Lemmy is just too political

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Well this a more political forum. My issue is it creeps out into everything. That’s what I find annoying.

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 months ago

Yep. Me to. I tend to post non political stuff but I don't think anyone is interested in that

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Depends what it is.

Outside of this forum, I generally don’t talk politics. Yet, creepy stalkers will follow me to try to talk politics in unrelated forums.

So what do you like to talk about? I like guns. I’m not a gun nut but I’ve been around them all my life, carried on the police force and military. I like to read a lot. I watch a lot of movies. Haha. Maybe we need topic on non-political discussion for conservatives

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 months ago

That's a good idea I think I'll make a community like that. That's those are cool interests.

I like tech, learning and finding new social media protocols, apps, AI apps, clothes, gadgets, robots, ai, funny and stupid questions, movies to definitely horror movies

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I don’t play a lot of games but I love fallout. I’ve played it since it was wasteland.

I love horror movies. Also move that are just different. John wick. All started because of a dog

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 months ago

I like watching horror game play throughs. https://youtu.be/d10qUYsnPL8?si=4Wxa84YNBB1GL44U

That's one I did lol I really like Daz games or Daz black. He's funny.

I love horror movies too but I can't watch them. The boogyman 2023 was so scary man I had to turn it off. Lol

I have to have someone watch them with me lol

I still need to watch John wick 4 was it good ?

I like making funny videos too. I haven't lately. But I want to

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Four was decent. Wrapped the story up. Not as good as two in my opinion. I like the old school horror like candy man, nightmare on elm street, hellraiser, etc

[-] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 months ago

Man those are good I haven't seen candy man though lol

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

Nobody’s feeling got hurt. Read rule 2. He violated it intentionally after warnings.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 7 months ago

The fact that maid exists is the problem

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Why? Shouldn’t people have the right to end their life on their own terms? Aren’t we more than state property ?

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Conservatives hate bodily autonomy.

[-] uzi@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago

Liberals want a government funded health care system paid for by government taking other people's money and imprison everybody who won't give their money to the government, they demand a ban to private healthcare, but when there's no money for government to provide thorough treatment, they want people executed or killed off to save government money.

They say it's better for all people to suffer than for some individuals to do well.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Fun fact: The US healthcare system costs more IN TAXES than every other country's. And then you have to pay exorbitant amounts per month, and even more when you get sick, on top.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

Exorbitant? I spend about 2400 a year on healthcare. That’s nothing. That’s less than 1% of my income. Anything about 7% you can deduct from your taxes.

[-] BunkerBuster@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You hear that everyone? The mod doesn't spend a lot on healthcare so it's not a fact that this country spends more than any other and gets less. As a healthy person, your wants for cheaper healthcare are unfounded. "The system works ~~for me~~" so nothing needs to change.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

How much does yours cost you per year?

[-] BunkerBuster@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

My wife's T1 diabetic. We pay to keep her alive. Go ahead, let's hear your bullshit response.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

That didn’t answer the question.

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