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As gender protests move closer to students, is it time for 'bubble zones' outside of schools? | CBC News (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 2 years ago by grte@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[–] ifyoudontknowlearn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I agree that such protests are not a good thing to expose kids to but to creating a protest free bubble around every thing doesn't seem practical. As an example it would stop a rally in support of black lives matter as well. Or teachers striking.

Suddenly someone has to say what topics are allowed to have rallies and which are not. We don't want to live in that country.

I'd say the police should handle these differently. For example if the protesters are threatening to anyone in the location but I don't see any evidence that they would make even remotely good choices.

Having said that, the police do need to do a better job. It seems to me that if skuffles break out it probably means there is not enough separation between the protesters. I would also like to stop seeing the police helping fascists too but I doubt I will get that wish.

[–] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I don't see any reason anyone should be protesting anything by a school. Unless it's the school kids themselves protesting, we did that once when I was in school. I think social pressure is appropriate here, if you're doing this, you're doing something messed up, and your friends should be telling you so.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

No it's time to investigate and jail these hateful terrorists.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

We need to start arresting these violent conspiracy theorists. It's harmful for the students and teachers.

[+] PortableHotpocket@lemmy.ca -6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My problem with bubble zones is that they're A) difficult to enforce, and B) protesting should be inconvenient. If we only allow protests in certain places, they're extremely easy to ignore. This goes for any kind of protest on any issue.

In an ideal world, I don't really want kids exposed to protests. But protests are only really effective when they take place where you don't want them. If protests for trans rights only ever took place in a cordoned off area safely away from everyone, they wouldn't be very effective either.

Parents should have a say what is being taught to their kids. LGBT values are an invasive culture change that is being pushed on kids without the interests of the parents in mind. This was equally true of the way Christianity was pushed on kids. I have always supported the secularization of schools. I don't want the government teaching my kid what to believe. They should learn fact-based sciences and important life skills, values should be taught by the parents.

For the record, I've been an LGBT supporter all of my life. I've always preached acceptance of other people no matter their beliefs or circumstances. I've only recently had to start pushing back because I believe certain parts of the LGBT culture are not suitable for children. It does not make you evil or a bigot to seek compromise. We all have to live together in this nation, we need to find ways to make peace with each other.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

As an Asexual man I'm wondering which of the "LGBT values" that I would hold would be unacceptable for children?

I don't accept that you support us, especially since I read some of your other post and, holy shit you aren't an ally.

[–] ninjamice@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

Imagine thinking people are so stupid that they'll believe you've been 'an LGBT supporter all your life" three seconds after they read your claim that "LGBT values are an invasive culture change". Be serious man.

Side note, what are LGBT values? I'm a lesbian, my core values are like... Competence, curiosity, integrity, courage, dependability... all of them things that can be valued and exhibited by cishet people too. Not you obviously, but others.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago

Big issue here is religion is based very deeply in things that are directly opposed to any reasonable understanding of how our world actually works. LGBT is based on personal feelings and desires, and there is little excuse for denying people what they say about themselves. I can say that all evidence suggests fairies do not exist, and we shouldn't be including them in school curriculum, no matter how big of a belief group exists for them.

But you cannot argue LGBT people do not exist. I'm a boy. I like other boys. It is inexcusable that half of the world would have me arrested or murdered for the fact, and allowing that same hated to permeate our society would be an injustice.