I was actually really excited to see this movie. Then I realized Seinfeld is in it and my desire went out the window
This article reads like the author kind of liked the movie, but their editor changed the headline:
Naturally, the premise sounds silly. Foolish, even. But Seinfeld doesn’t let it show. Unfrosted is briskly paced, gamely acted, and its script, co-written by Spike Feresten, Andy Robin, and Barry Marder, does not contain a whit of self-consciousness. It’s also funny at times, even if it is a depressing, vulgar little project.
Sounds like Seinfeld committed the gravest sin possible in the race for clicks: he made a movie that's... okay.
Which, tbf, is probably about his ceiling without Larry David around.
Yea I'm confused, the article seems to waver between it was confusing to good, but also it misses the point of why the writer likes pop tarts so it's not good?
"That’s a nice feeling. *Unfrosted *isn’t about that feeling. It’s about the product [...] It takes whatever pleasure that can be derived from a Pop-Tart, and chokes on it"
The author is making 2 main points.
- This movie exists because studios will fund projects that are connected to ip, and it's ridiculous that pop-tarts counts.
- The movie isn't choosing to say anything. It is telling jokes to have fun and that's as far as it's willing to take it.
Now, does this make it a bad movie? That's for you to decide. If all you want from a film is to be entertained with some jokes? It sounds like it's good, but that's not what the author is speaking to. The author is speaking to people that enjoy films that have points of view that they are expressing. If that isn't you, that's okay.
It's... not good though. Which is REALLY striking b/c with that outstanding cast, it becomes really, REALLY noticeable. There should have been almost no way for this to bomb... but it did.
The whole show is just dedicated to loving conservative values - capitalism, shitting on women (ostensively ironically, but...), not paying or caring at all about your workers, or your customer base either, as in literally giving little children cancer and laughing about it (I am not even kidding, that was an actual part of the movie, from both sides), and they even had a whole scene depicting the White House riots, replete with a guy with no shirt and a horned helmet who took an actual dump on the property, and once again I am not kidding but it was violent, with one person falling to be injured after having climbed the wall, and others were climbing up multiple stories high on the outside of the building.
Oh, but now Seinfeld is blaming the "woke crowd" for not appreciating what he offered. As with any incel, the recipients thoughts don't matter ofc, only his intentions, which he claims to be "pure". A quote from the article:
According to Seinfeld himself, Unfrosted is merely an exercise in warm silliness, born from the bleak early days of the COVID-19 pandemic and a very long-gestating stand-up joke about how much joy the treat brought him as a kid.
Yeah, except it's not though. It's exactly like calling someone "sugar tits" while slapping them on the ass, then blaming them for "not getting the joke" - this was Boomerism at its finest, and the only reason I am glad to have seen it is b/c it helps me realize why there may be an actual, literal Civil War upcoming in the next election: b/c there are a LOT of people like him, who flat-out do not care one tiny bit about anyone but their own side.
It's a silly point though. You mean the Pop-Tart movie written by Jerry Seinfeld doesn't make a point????? Well color me surprised.
Barbie is a movie that is about a children's toy, and it talks about feminism, toxic masculinity, among others. Godzilla is a movie where a man in a giant reptile costume breaks apart facsimile buildings, but talks about the terror of nuclear attacks at the same time. Just because movies are about silly things doesn't mean that the professionals that work on them aren't allowed to put more into their work.
And? Not every movie has to make a stance on something. It's written by Jerry Seinfeld. Do you really care about his thoughts on some political, environmental or social issues?
Not every movie has to be about deep things, but if you make it about nothing then don't be surprised when people collectively say "meh" and ignore your movie.
Sure. I wasn't arguing against that. I just said it's a silly article if it's whole point was "the movie is funny, but the movie about Pop-Tarts by Jerry Seinfeld isn't deep enough".
Sure?
(...) in the service of a story that possesses no satirical edge, nor any human connection. It takes whatever pleasure that can be derived from a Pop-Tart, and chokes on it.
The perfect pop tart adaptation has already been done, “P.T.” by Hideo Kojima.
So true
He's been writing his pop-tart joke since 2010!
https://youtu.be/itWxXyCfW5s
He said in that video writing comedy is like writing lyrics. And I agree. Comedy is kinda like music. And... comedy changes over time... like music changes. An artist needs to change along with the times. There was a reason why The Beatles changed their style over the years. Madonna as well. Comedians should too.
Even though Seinfeld the show is brilliant and still is funny in a classic music type of way, his comedy now just feels dated. There's a reason why Vaudeville is not really around anymore.
Once you're part of the biggest show on TV, it's hard to ground yourself. His woke stance just shows how out of touch he is. Similar to Roseanne. Rob McElhenney's response was perfect:
I know, it's like Hollywood will make a movie out of literally anything nowadays. It's a Pop-Tarts movie today, but what's next? A movie based on Monopoly? The Sims? Barbies (now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services)?
I mean, can you imagine?
It still sounds better than Bee Movie
Seinfeld... embarrasses everyone
Saved y'all a click.
Haven't seen it but it seems like the kind of movie that has a montage of talking heads at some point, probably close to the beginning.
Movies
Welcome to Movies, a community for discussing movies, film news, box office, and more! We want this to be a place for members to feel safe to discuss and share everything they love about movies and movie related things. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow!
Related Communities:
!books@lemmy.world - Discussing books and book-related things.
!comicbooks@lemmy.world - A place to discuss comic books of all types.
!marvelstudios@lemmy.world - LW's home for all things MCU.
While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
-
Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
-
Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
-
Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
-
Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.
Regarding spoilers; Please put "(Spoilers)" in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers, as we do not currently have a spoiler tag available. If your post contains an image that could be considered a spoiler, please mark the thread as NSFW so the image gets blurred. As far as how long to wait until the post is no longer a spoiler, please just use your best judgement. Everyone has a different idea on this, so we don't want to make any hard limits.
Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread. Most of the Lemmy clients don't support this but we want to get into the habit as clients will be supporting in the future.
Failure to follow these guidelines will result in your post/comment being removed and/or more severe actions. All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. We ask that the users report any comment or post that violates the rules, and to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting.