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One of the things he takes offence about is that Bluesy has moderation.
He should know that moderation is needed to be useable by nearly anyone.
I hope he realizes that having moderation isn't a choice social media websites get to make anymore. That's Apple and Google's choice now. Why? Because in order to have literally any userbase at all nowadays, you have to have an app. Websites barely get used in comparison to phone apps. And if you don't bother moderating your website and let people send things like racial slurs and child porn unabated, you get kicked off the app stores by Apple and Google. Not to mention that payment companies don't like those things either.
That situation (apple and Google as sole gatekeepers) is fucked up and should change with the new eu open markets legislation.
Yea... no moderation would mean flooding of ads, spam, porn, child porn, etc.
I think it's dumb af for someone like him to bitch about moderation.
Example:
https://kbin.social/m/opensource
Versus
https://sh.itjust.works/c/opensource@kbin.social
Yikes.
still new here-- how do you interact with kbin pages while being logged into a different instance? i'm on lemmy.zip and go subscribe and fetch intance but it says page not found
It works the same a a remote instance lemmy page.
Most likely .zip banned that community, which I'm also considering since it's mostly spam.
Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately
Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately
Yes. People over there should probably move to Mbin instances
thanks for the information! the fusillade of BUY MY XANAX ads reminded me of the old AIM days
I don't know if he's been taken out of context, but bluesky is supposed to have opt-out moderation, and the ability to opt-in to multiple moderation servers (a little like adlists in ublock et al), which doesn't seem like a terrible idea, but it sounds like they've gone further and completely removed stuff, because in reality it isn't decentralised at all.
Having the ability to opt out of moderation sounds very dangerous.
you can't opt out of bsky's own moderation if you want to use bluesky pbllc's infrastructure
As a member of some unmod groups back in the early internet I can't but concur
It can be safely done with very small, or very cool, groups of folks, but not on the open internet.
FTA:
In the interview, Dorsey claimed that Bluesky was “literally repeating all the mistakes” he made while running Twitter. The entire conversation is long and a bit rambly, but Dorsey’s complaints seem to boil down to two issues:
- He never intended Bluesky to be an independent company with its own board and stock and other vestiges of a corporate entity (Bluesky spun out of Twitter as a public benefit corporation in 2022.) Instead, his plan was for Twitter to be the first client to take advantage of the open source protocol. Bluesky created.
- The fact that Blueksy has some form of content moderation and has occasionally banned users for things like using racial slurs in their usernames.
“People started seeing Bluesky as something to run to, away from Twitter,” Dorsey said. “It's the thing that's not Twitter, and therefore it's great. And Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”
“People started seeing Bluesky as something to run to, away from Twitter,” Dorsey said
This quote in context with all the rest of his statement makes it clear he didn't understand what people were running from. Unless he intended it to be like Truth Social and thought folks were running towards that.
Jack Dorsey is just dollar store musk.
I beg your pardon?
They said what they said. You’re the dollar store version of a man who without money would be an insensitive stereotype of the hill folk round here
Jack is a dumbass who ruins platforms, I'm not sure he's very credible.
Yes, people might be forgiven for believing he's different from Musk because they had differences about Twitter and because Twitter was not as bad when he owned it, but he's still a tech cultist like Musk, still has all the wealthy 0.1%er Silicon Valley weirdness and kook beliefs.
He's just not in the news as much.
Watch his Joe Rogan podcast episode, he knew fuck all about what his company was doing while he was in charge.
I'll take your word for it, you literally couldn't pay me to watch Joe Rogan lol.
Which one? Found this one.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
The one where he has one of their legal team with him.
Yeah, that's the one I linked. Will try and watch it. Thanks.
Its an interesting look behind the scenes a bit, but he definitely had been checked out mental from twitter for a while, they should have just had her on there.
People liked the fact that his backing gave bluesky some extra clout, which gave it a lot more visibility. I don't think the platform needs it any more, though.
this post was submitted on 10 May 2024
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