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In a pair of Truth Social posts Monday evening, Trump took aim at the electric vehicle industry and President Biden’s push for more electric vehicles. With this opposition to electric vehicles, Trump is likely trying to persuade Michigan voters to support him over Biden, who carried the swing state in 2020.

The Biden administration has pushed to boost electric car sales, with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) predicting that two-thirds of new car sales could be electric by 2032 under a new proposal released by the administration earlier this year. Last week, the Energy Department announced plans to invest $12 billion into converting auto manufacturing facilities into plants for hybrid and electric vehicles.

Trump also took aim at Shawn Fain, the president of the United Auto Workers, for supporting the Biden administration’s latest investment into electric vehicles.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 129 points 1 year ago
[-] deconstruct@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago

Old man urges investment in horses, buggys, and oats.

[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know, all those liberal coffee shops are selling oat milk. Can't the horses eat something more Republican like corn?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Literally. He really should be mad at climate change for fueling the need for EVs.

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

But then that’s admitting that climate change exists, and then it’s a slippery slope to saying he was trying to start an insurrection and coup, and that’s a big no-no for Dolan Trumpet.

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[-] hansl@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Gas would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for that pesky pollution.

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Only the fucking Republicans would end up against innovation.

The anti-progress culture war bullshit is overdone and tired. Give it a rest and let everyone else move on without you.

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans hate change. They hate that they no longer run the show, though they're doing what they can to get that power back. They hate that the old white man doesn't have the strangling grip on society it once had. They hate that minorities and women have rights, though they're doing what they can to change that. They hate open boarders and people who feel more themselves as a member of the opposite sex. They hate what America was on the path of becoming, which was a place that truly welcomed any and all people.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

anti-progress culture war

And anti-science across the board. War on education from elementary school to college. Very unfortunate.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The fascists don't want to let anyone else alone, though.

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[-] JazzAlien@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago
[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

He'll only do something if he can force some of the production line through a Trump subsidiary so he can get a cut.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Come down to the Trump™ Pump station and get some gasoline

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He will yell, get media coverage, wait a few days, somehow declare victory and never speak of it again. Its the same playbook can we just ignore him until his court dates?

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He's gonna do a shit on a prison toilet hopefully soon.

[-] cowfodder@unilem.org 30 points 1 year ago

Goes to show, again, that this dipshit has no idea what he's talking about. Detroit automakers have been steadily retrofitting old plants and building new ones to increase EV manufacturing capabilities.

[-] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

Might as well add this to the pile of lies.

I’m just going to leave this here. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/he-lied-ohio-voters-struggle-after-trump-promised-jobs

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

If we nuke the sun, we don’t have to worry about solar power. It would also combat global warming, which is totally not real. And if we just ban the sale and possession of Lithium, we can get rid of those polluting electric cars. It’s not regulation, it’s for the children.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

I think if we nuke the sun it just gets sunnier

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

LEFT WING LIES! The sun will pop because it’s a big balloon and fall into the ocean or fall off the side of the earth where the lizard people live and where Hillary vacations. You can see the chemtrails from her personal ufo that she keeps at Area 51. Elvis keeps his there too.

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[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 year ago

That's not even consistent with their donor's ideology.

EV's exist to save the auto industry, not the planet.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

True. If you want to save the planet you'll redesign your cities to stop the car dependencies. Allow people to walk, cycle, and use public transportation.

Electric cars is just another ruse for huge car manufacturers to sell more shit to ruin the world slightly slower.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

How dare people want EVs! This desire for something Trump doesn't like must be quashed!

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The anti-electric / pro-oil propaganda that "conservatives" pass around is really baffling. They have integrated this stuff into their core belief platform. It's nonsense because EVs seem to be a really great option to solve a lot of problems, and you'd think people that complain about gas prices all the time would want to not have to buy gas at all.

All the sense that I can make of it is that Russia is an oil-export economy, and they have been pushing the pro-oil propaganda into the "conservative" thought pipeline for so long that it just became part of their religion.

It’s performative opposition. No one really thinks there’s some kind of actually intellectually coherent views regarding incandescent bulbs, fuel efficiency, or solar power. It’s a conditioned reaction at this point. Sure, the oil lobby will oppose it, but it’s not like Big Bulb is trying to get rid of smart bulbs.

They’ve been conditioned to respond to the talking point of “the government is trying to tel you what to do” to such an extent that Biden could win the next election if he announced a government initiative to stop people from chaining themselves to rocks and jumping into the nearest lake.

[-] TIN@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Free market economy but only in things I like

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

From MI here, I love my EV and despise anyone who hates on them.

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What's the ten year forecast for fuel prices again? EV is the future, those not on board will get left behind like those in the 20s who refused to switch from the horse to a automobile.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

Seems misguided as appeal to a big chunk of Michigan voters. The car companies are all retooling lines for EVs as demand continues to increase and they don't seem to be turning over tons of employees to do so. For auto industry workers electrification seems to be somewhere on the scale between an lateral move and a boon.

But I'd think it would still play in Alaska and the gulf states where all the oil drilling and refinement happen. Though I also suspect we'll see hydrogen economy jobs ramping in the gulf states since that's where Toyota has most of the US manufacturing.

[-] Trashcanman@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Not only are the autos retooling factories to build ev’s they are investing billions in new battery plants. A big part of the UAW negotiations are making sure that future ev’s are made with union labor. EV’s are coming and dipshits like Trump won’t be able to stop it

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Trump is going to prison, he ain't doin' shit.

[-] ToAllPointsWest@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Well he won't have to worry about EVs from his prison cell

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Is Elon back from picking fights with Xitter bots yet?

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[-] krayj@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump is likely trying to persuade Michigan voters

Why would this persuade Michigan voters? Are Detroit auto-makers forbidden from manufacturing electric vehicles?

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Elon sat there with a pet leopard.

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

He seems to have missed doing an entire side of his head with orange makeup.

What a strange strange man.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

“Progress?! Not on my watch!!!”

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

He has to have polling saying this is a winning message, since he has repeated it a few times and it's an actual policy proposal.

But dang this doesn't FEEL like a winning message. The federal government is giving billions to major Michigan manufacturing facilities and he's...against it?

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[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

i'm more into hydrogen, but EV's tick a lot of boxes (besides lasting for longer than around 12 years, and losing range in extreme weather)

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: Cold weather reduces the range of ICE vehicles too. Technically more than Electric vehicles, if you're not using the electric to heat the vehicle as well: https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/fuel-economy-cold-weather

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You need to heat up the ev somehow. There’s some waste heat generated by the motors, but you’re still having to preheat off the battery. And it’s more emerge effecient to keep the main battery warm than it is to cold discharge anyhow

Otherwise your windows fog up.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's all true, but you can pre-heat your vehicle before you set off while it's still plugged in. Even a basic Nissan leaf lets you do that. Either way, even accounting for all that people don't seem to realise that ICE's lose efficiency in cold weather as well and it's not a small amount.

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