Well this escalated quickly
AlteredEgo
joined 1 year ago
Well ultimately there is little any of us can do. The mainstream narrative is controlled by the plutocrats and US empire, and that controls the outcome of elections.
Do you think criticizing the US involvement or meddling in other democracies and their support with intelligence and weapons in Ukraine, would this criticism be support for Russia? Even if the facts are verifiable?
Do you think criticizing Russia for their meddling and invasion is supporting the US empire?
I believe we must do both. Like criticizing the US and Israel and also criticizing the Islamism of Hamas and their terrorist October 7 attacks. Same with Iran or China.
I also agree that Russia is much worse than those examples (e.g. supporting climate denial and Trump). I just don't think keeping the meatgrinder in Ukraine going is worth suppressing any discussion about diplomatic solutions - or suppressing the truth of how we got here.
Obviously you already do. You'd be wrong though, I'm very worried about this tool and who gets to control it. And I'm certain this emotional approach is the wrong strategy, as is lobbying about copyright that will make AI models a monopoly in the hands of the plutocrats.
Russia is a right wing plutocracy and isn't using the aesthetics of socialism, so is this about China and not Russia/Ukraine?
You just perfectly described the average redditor. And I think that's at the heart of it. How shallow people have become that it's even a competition.
Of course I'm joking. The average redditor is not much different from the average lemming, and people have always been morons. Like you are saying, people not realizing it's just glorified autocomplete. And you "bag of water" not realizing that you're making a category error.
Victim blaming has arrived for gun violence. This marks an historic achievement in the development of propaganda!´
Thousands of cops and fascists are smacking themselves in the forehead right now and saying: Wow! Actually I invented this! I've been saying years ago "Hey, why are you hitting yourself?"
Yeah that comes to mind, a tactic in fascism is to project the hate of people onto someone or something, away from the actual origins of oppression.
People are frustrated and don't know where to put it. Of course it's fine to vent, but this post in particular "hates the sinner, not the sin". It even calls AI users a cuck.
The solution to the trolley problem is to kill the experimenter. He's the one that keeps strapping people to the tracks. And also to convict the one asking these questions for thought crimes.
The trolley problem is a question designed to make you think ethics is both simple and impossible, that there are no good answers, and that principles are both valid but arbitrary tools to solve complex ethical questions. If you ask me such terrorist thought experiments, off to the gulag with you!
No, it's "Reductio ad Absurdum" showing how your argument is fallacious.
Both honestly. I'm curious how people mean to oppose US imperialism, and how they mean to criticize US Empire and their meddling while avoiding the "Russia supporter" label. I suspect the answer is either:
a) Russia is the worst imperialist, Putin is like Hitler and any diplomatic solution is futile because they never keep to their deals and will invade Europe and others if unchecked. So we have to shield the US empire from criticism in this case because it's the lesser of two evils
b) Any opposition to more weapon and materiel support for Ukraine makes the war take longer and cause more damage, and if criticism of US role in Ukraine were to vanish, Ukraine could win the war quickly
c) Because there has been so much agitprop that Russia pumped into the internet for the last two decades, and because of paranoia that everyone is a bot or a shill, arguing about this is as pointless as arguing with a climate denialist. The left is only going to accept mainstream liberal news and "safe" majority social media trends and reject anything else out of hand. Nobody has time and energy searching and reading and analyzing the dissident views.
Obviously I don't agree with either of those, but I'm honestly curious and maybe I've missed something.