"You libs don't understand; we've oppressed them as hard as we can oppress any living creature and it hasn't worked, what else are we supposed to do if not outright genocide?"
Seriously, going back to life as it was before the Hamas attack is just choosing bad over worse; the 'international' (Western) community needs to demand human rights and make it clear that people are going to be getting tried for war crimes on both sides (while respecting right of resistance).
the most rudimentary skepticism of US media
When I told the guy I knew that the US media has repeatedly lied for decades and offered tons of examples his response was "Maybe they're telling the truth now"
I'd love to say it would be a PR disaster for American news, but realistically people have become too invested in the American Cinematic Universe to be swayed by what visitors have to say.
The lib I work with believes all the nonsense about North Korea and I've tried explaining to him that North Korea literally has non-North Korean tour guides who absolutely allow you to go where you want but usually prefer if you don't because no one would be able to communicate with you if you got lost, and your vacation would be wasted if you had no idea where to go, but he believes that it's all just a show, as though any country on the planet actually puts in that kind of effort to convince foreigners. Every time I tell him there are literally people who've posted positive news in regards to being there, or about a non-North Korean who works there, he still wants to believe what the news says or whatever negative claims are being made about it, and so he challenged me to go to North Korea on vacation and 'find out the truth for both of us' (he already believes I'll come back with horror stories), and so I challenged him and asked "If I go there and find out that it's all nonsense, that the country is fine and peaceful, would you believe me?". I personally hate traveling, and going on vacation anywhere is a chore I loathe, and so surely if I go to such effort then he'll believe me, right? His response was a reluctant "I'll be more likely to believe it"
This guy doesn't want to believe he's been lied to about North Korea; literally no amount of evidence will sway him; it's almost like this is some kind of investment for him (I say him, but this applies to libs in general).
Lemme ask you this, does the US doing something bad nullify the wrongdoings of another country/regime?
When they're in the process or about to cause a humanitarian disaster in said country, yes.
Saddam's regime was terrible, however sanctions, plus destroying vital infrastructure such as water treatment facilities and power plants during war were infinitely worse. The sanctions on the DPRK that have been going on since 1950 compounded the nightmare of destroying all the infrastructure in the country and the killing of 20% of the population and are still ongoing.
America is hosting the world cup next so.....yeah literally at this point anything goes. The only way it could be worse is if the literal Nazi regime was back and they were hosting the world cup.
"During the war, American military and civilian officials stretched the term "military target" to include virtually all human-made structures, capitalizing on the vague distinction between the military and civilian segments of an enemy society. They came to apply the logic of total war to the destruction of the civil infrastructure in North Korea. Because almost any building could serve a military purpose, even if a minor one, nearly the entire physical infrastructure behind enemy lines was deemed a military target and open to attack. This expansive definition, along with the optimism about sparing civilians that is reinforced, worked to obscure in American awareness the suffering of Korean civilians in which U.S. firebombing was contributing."
One of the things I never understood is why Western countries (as we're not the only ones who do this) bother coming up with these laws and rules of engagement and such if they're just going to basically be interpreted in the most liberal sense to allow one to do whatever they want. Take that adviser to Trump who suggested sending out a drone to 'deal' with migrants before they crossed the US border or entered American waters because they wouldn't be protected by the US constitution at that point. What even is the point of these laws if the intent is ignored and people simply find a way to play the system?
Getting really concerned about how the fourth reich is gonna manifest....and gonna be real with you guys, I didn't think Germany was gonna go for round 3 (but this time if they do, the Western powers have decided to back this horse this time around).
That is the most American post I've seen this month.
20 years later we'll hear about how maybe this was a mistake, but no one will be blamed and no demands for sentencing made
On the plus side: Join the military and you'll be allowed to do this to poor brown kids, and they'll call you a hero too!
If your views can only be propagated through violence, don't you think they should be reconsidered?
Please share this pearl of wisdom with the US government, if you're successful you'll literally save millions of lives and no one on the planet will ever be more deserving of the Nobel prize. Please also share this sentiment with the soldiers in question, they're literally involved in killing hundreds of thousands when it's not millions to supposedly propagate American views on freedom and democracy (but in reality installing puppet governments for geopolitical power or to facilitate the theft of natural resources).
Yeah but the West Bank is the two state solution; the problem with a two state solution is that Israel absolutely won't respect it and will just go ahead and build illegal settlements UNLESS a powerful third force militarily guards the rights of the second state, and good luck getting our government to go along with that.
Also I found out from watching Hasan's videos that the illegal settlers are about 700,000 people, and they're armed as well; you are NOT getting those people to leave peacefully. Apparently those settlers are also the genuine hard-coded fascists; the blood and soil types, replete with mythical explanations and openly saying the Arabs should be treated as second class citizens and be grateful for it (which makes me concerned about what they say off camera), believing that strength is justice and apparently being the sort to hate holocaust survivors because they see them as weak.
There's no realistic way to have a two state solution without a military force ensuring peace and no breaches of territory or rights, and even a one state solution does not guarantee equal rights to all, merely gaining the second class citizenship afforded to Arab Israelis who will probably see a further reduction in rights to compensate.
Actually now that I've typed all this up, I don't see a peaceful resolution to this. The Israeli government needs to be replaced with a better one, it's the central problem to any solution. Also if their democracy works the way I understand it, it sucks anyway; apparently you don't vote for the prime minister or the president, you vote for the Knesset and they elect a president and prime minister.