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[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

When you say steal land and genocide people, are you referring to the survivors from the Holocaust granted part of the british controlled land called (by the british BTW and not the indigenous people) Palestine? Those folks who we're then immediately set upon by the arabic folk living in said land?

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Dude, jews have been living in israel all throughout history. They've been forcefully expelled from the country by the various empires which have conquered it but there has always been a jewish presence in the land. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Love that you think Israel and Ukraine are opposite sides. Who exactly is backing Palestine? Supplying them with weapons? Iran and Russia...

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Wait. To counter my argument that there is no Palestine you provide a snapshot of the mandate recognizing the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land? Doesn't that counter your arguments? Yes, the british called this peice of land Palestine. Do you know where the name originates from? The Jewish Bible where the Philistines are mentioned as large red headed folk probably originating from somewhere near Greece. So do the current Palestinians claim to be their decendants? Jewish people have always lived in the region of Israel which was under the occupation of numerous other empries. The arab folk living in Israel prior to 1948 can trace their heritages to a myriad of neighboring countries such as Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq and so forth (Some of their surnames are a clear indication of that).

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago
  • I still haven't seen proof of this Go search the "Hamas horror film". Then answer again what you think a reasonable response is.

  • this didn't start October 7 When did it start then?

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

That's proof that there is a war on. No proof of any systematic killings. Based on Palestinian reports there are about 20000 dead, no information of course on how many of them combatants. So over the course of 3 months you have a less than 1 percent fatalities. I point you back to my meme and ask tou where's the genocide. In the ww2 bombing of dresden 25000 people were killed in just 4 attacks. Israel is doing everything possible to kill only combatants. As I mentioned earlier it is impossible to avoid civilian deaths as they are being used as human shields. Military equipment is constantly being found in hospitals, mosques, schools and under childrens beds.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Why the personal attacks? I'm happy to debate any counter points you may have.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Excellent debate. Thanks.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So you're calling for decolonization of all countries in the world? Every person should immigrate back to their country of origin? And how long back is "country of origin" defined? Do you acknowledge that all Jewish people originate from Israel or is that something we need to debate as well?

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
  1. Hang on, don't stop. Which countries? And by new palastine do you mean the one controlled by Hamas who have kill all jews and christians in their charter? So basically just kill everyone who is currently living in Israel?
  2. So all the christian and muslim arabs who are Israeli citizens too. Right? You wouldn't want to come off as a racist impliying only jews should be displaced would you?
[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I assume this comment relates to the people displaced during the war of 1948. A war which was started by the arabs living in Israel as a way to oppose the u.n. decision of a two state solution (first but not last time this happens). Those displaced settlers?

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