NauticalNoodle

Well, some of the GOP ARE Liberals, although, A few are theocrats. Your loss.

I think your username is probably working against you on this one.

Nonsense. Some of them have read The Bible.

fewer than the ones who said they have.

Most of them weren't even given the means to find lawyers.

but they did start the "immigrant detention centers."

We've had them for over a decade at this point. They were first established and construction started during the Obama administration. During 45 AOC among a few other politicians did a performative photo-op in front of them and then that party as a whole proceeded to do nothing about them. Now we seem to have come back full-circle.

Yes, that sounds very much like a Liberal take.

" Punishing farmers (or any industry) rarely punishes those that deserve it"

When did that last happen?

i'm not sure it would make it okay but it might make it ironic.

This is what frustrates me when Liberals start rallying around illegal farm labor and it's "economic benefits." -I think if we're going to have realistic regulations around immigrant labor then the first priority should start with penalizing the farmers (and other employers) that hire the illegal labor because they don't want to pay a reasonable wage or maintain a safe work-environment

Yeah, sure but to "steal something" is to imply that you're depriving the original owner use of the thing you stole. This is more like making an exact copy depriving nobody of use of the original thing.

it's more like depriving someone use of roads, sidewalks, and doors because they got caught walking out of Kinkos

In theory the IoT could be secure. -In theory.

By claiming people must vote for the "lesser evil" and nothing else then the party of "lesser evil" implicitly paves the way for people to stop showing up for them, which to that side paves the way for their greater evil to eventually win. -If you think that's selfish and entitled, then that's your prerogative, but if you want people support your candidate then you have to get them to want to support your candidate, be it selfish or not.