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[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

See you guys in I2P :)

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don't keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 15 points 16 hours ago
[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN's network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that's no good.

[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

How is that better? If you configure your firewall rules incorrectly, this protects you against that. This ensures you have no connection if your VPN isn't on/isn't working.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol.

Do ISPs like making money?

Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I've been torrenting movies and software since 2000, no vpn, like I literally have torrented damn near everything I've watched for decades and have only gotten a notice once and it wasn't even me. It was from a temporary roommate who had watched a movie on a pirate streaming site.

So that tells you how good and accurate their detection techniques are.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Their methods are fine, they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them. The main reasons you wouldn't get notices are getting lucky, not seeding much, not torrenting things that are being monitored, or having an ISP that doesn't care much.

The single notice from the streaming site makes sense, pirate streaming sites are usually honeypots or heavily monitored.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

My routine is always use piratebay, never use a pirate streaming site, no new or big studio releases, no porn, not seeding for long and choosing less active torrents. I can't say much for how effective it is since I've never gotten hit so I can't really experiment (I've had five or six ISPs in two different countries).

they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them.

And I don't even understand how this would hold up if it ever went to trial. How can an IP owner "pirate" their own IP? Even when they outsource it to services who do this they're still giving permission for the IP to be distributed.

It's like hiring someone to "steal" your own TV, putting it in a back alley and then accusing whoever takes it of being a thief.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It's generally seen as okay on a similar level to undercover work. They do it for Investigation reasons, the torrent was already uploaded before they joined, their monitoring serves a legitimate law enforcement purpose, and they're authorized by the copyright holder (themselves) to do it. They didn't put the movie or whatever out there themselves.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is how you get a new darknet.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

they try that in the US, using mass litigation, but it doesnt work, its usually designed to scare indivudal IP users to "turn them self in"

[–] jownz@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

A boy downloaded a movie via torrent without using a VPN.

He died.

Good night! 😴

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't public trackers add random IPs?

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 21 hours ago

They could. The protocol also supports IP spoofing, so doxing could also be a thing.

For individuals, it is a time consuming and costly legal process, whether justified or not. For the law firm, it costs a few cents per letter, but they get a few hundred (or more) euros when some sucker pays.

Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago

All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.

let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment... but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable... and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can't disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

give it a few months, they're working up to it.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Supreme Court: "One of us! One of us!"

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 154 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

If it's upheld, that's the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone 'accused' of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.

This also sounds like SOPA reborn.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Accused???

Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

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[–] PanaX@lemmy.world 270 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.

[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 161 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol, they'll have no customers! ISPs used to send 'warning' letters to customers in England but that's all.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago

Same in the US.

I got one once from something I know for sure I didn't download. I always assumed it was a friend of mine staying with us that was torrenting "Boss's Daughter Big Booty XXX" or whatever it was, but I never really wanted to ask.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 222 points 2 days ago (26 children)

I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 140 points 2 days ago

Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Net neutrality is why your online jokes were censored under Biden

-- John McRacist, Republican congressman, former CFO of Evil Inc., former lawyer of Vile Ltd., member of Christofascism Society and Roman Salutes to Jesus

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