OccamsRazer

Well in that case there probably isn't a single nation ever that should be proud.

Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people's instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?

Well that wasn't really the question. But actually I met her when we were both pretty young so I don't recall it being much of an issue. We probably talked about kid stuff.

It's not small talk, because i actually care how my wife's day was.

No. That's why it's religion, because it is based on faith. If there were enough evidence then it would be science, or objective fact.

I guess maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Is there any country in the history of time itself that has done anything right?

World War two. You need to get outside more, talk to normal people. Also you could read a history book. You don't accomplish anything with delusional rhetoric.

None at all? Come on...

It sounded like maybe you were secretly happy about the murders, or sympathized a little bit. If not, that's my mistake and I apologize.

I'm addressing the victim blaming apologists in this thread. If that isn't you then carry on.

Free speech means being able to say and support things you believe in without the threat of being murdered for it. Any sympathy for the murderer undermines free speech and democratic society. This is not complicated...

Seems like a lot of victim blaming in here. It can be very simple. Don't murder people you disagree with. Also, free speech needs to be protected culturally as well, and not just through the government. But the government must also protect free speech, and that includes protecting people from others. There doesn't need to be a discussion about understanding motives at all. It's wrong and needs to be condemned, full stop. Otherwise you don't have a free country. You can't hand wave it away or shrug just because you understand their motive.