SaltSong

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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

I think you (and everyone else) have lost the thread, mate. He was replying directly to the question "why can't they just stay in Europe." The answer is "Europe had immigration laws."

I don't see anything wrong with this exchange.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

No, it's not for after conviction. It's for when I'm being held before conviction. My lawyer gets to make the government prove that they have a reason to hold me. It's why a cop can't throw me in prison for six months for looking at him funny.

It may have some application after conviction too. I'm not a lawyer. This sort of thing is taught in high school, though, and it's important enough that it should be remembered.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It means that when I get arrested, I'm not allowed to ask why, or to demand even the thinnest shred of proof that I've done anything at all wrong.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

Such a good game. I always wound up with a pile of guards in the basement, or a closet or something.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

I've explained it to you twice. I'm going to use small words, this time.

"States rights," is the right of the state government to pass it's own laws.

The right to fight a law in the courts belongs to individual persons, not the state government. If the state government disliked a law, they would not go through the courts, they would just change the law.

"States rights" are for the state government, not the people of the state. Nothing the state government does to the people of that state can go against the rights of the state government, because the people do not have states rights, because they are not states.

Just so we are clear, you are not a state, are you? If you happen to be New Jersey, for example, I could understand your confusion.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

Huh. TIL. I had always thought that I could get in the deep shit for that.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

if i can be shown to have done so, I will. So far all I see is you misusing the phrase "states rights."

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think it's already illegal to take minors across state lines without parental consent.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website -2 points 1 week ago

Ah, right. I must have been blinded by how stupid it is to put "can't challenge this in court" into a law.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 123 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I find it hard to believe that it's legal to buy a company, but not it's contractual obligations. Seems line a hell of a loophole for getting out of things you don't want to do.

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