Yeah, it's the same interpretation that a sect of ancient pre-orthodox Christians (we have to interpret Orthodox not as the Orthodoxy post great Schism) that were then persecuted and had to fly outside the Roman Empire to the Arabian Penninsula. The Gnostics had a similar fate, but I think that Gnostics were directly wiped out.

Both. Both of them. And if you count trinitarian mythology, Jesus is god.

The meme is backwards. Jesus was the one wanting massive genocide except for a little group of cultists.

I swear, fucking fanatics of faith healing, antivaxxers and the rest of idealist lunatics are driving us to extinction via germs

Worry not, comrade. We all have bad days and bad moments.

Under the context of Zardoz it is about killing being good and reproducing being bad, tho. Also,ain't hornism a consequence of different capitalist industries, being everyone, including liberals, victims of?

Under a capitalist / classist system? Yes, it will go full Zardoz, with floating faces saying "the gun is good, the penis is evil", and cultist running with Beach-Borat with boots - like outfits and all, but I can't see how under a communist system this can in any way become bad.

Speaking of, wasn't the Soviet Union against genetic studies until the 80's or something?

While I'm starting to remember what you said abour Sargon and all that as correct, the thing about Zoroastrians, is that they were in great consideration and loved and admired by a lot of people by their teachings, but never held a propagandístic teaching, and was ethnocentric,meaning that the responsibility of adoration was over the Persians themselves, but that salvation was universal, for Ahura Mazda would save everyone good enough, and who were not with redeeming qualities, sent to hell to purify themselves, and then go to Paradaija(the word Paradise is from Persian origin, yes), because the main perpetrator of wickedness is Angra Mainyu, the rest are victims (which, by the way, the notion we have of Satan is also copied from Angra, sincr Satan was literally just a god of judgement to see if people were actually good or not).

Ah, yes. Zoroastrianism is also escathologic, and wait for a savior born from a Virgin, without sin, to form an army to destroy Angra Mainyu once and for all, so Ahura Mazda can make the Earth into a paradise. Pretty much like Deutero Isaiah.

Edit: just to be understood. I'm not claiming that believers deserve the wall de facto, and I even know that the first victims of religion and who face the class struggle, are precisely the believers the same way people living in the imperial core are victims too.

I'm sorry, but those believes aren't separated from protecting the same church. The problem with religion is that they are ideologies, and those ideologies have the first primal indoctrination that affects even to non believers, that is that the institution must be protected at all cost, even from itself, in a really very simmilar way that capitalism has socdems and fascists. They are very different in the outside, but they have the same purpose.

And another thing, is that the institution isn't bourgeois, it's theocracist.

Right now is in bed with the bourgeoisie because the later is what it has power. Historically, the church was in bed always with the system and power that was dominant and at the same time, struggling to attain absolute power, being in an friendship/rivalry the same way today the nobility and aristocracy is in bed with the bourgeoisie.

BTW, I don't know what a "reddit atheist" is, but it sounds to me like "the good socialist is never "radical"", "the good feminist is the one that doesn't accuse men for everything", "the good union is the one that allways collaborate with the boss", "the good atheist never speaks the harms of religion". Can't you see the pattern, comrade?

I feel you. I have family I never met because during Spanish Civil War, they were killed by NationalCatholics, being the Church one of the principal instigators against communism, anarchism, and even atheism or minimal worker's rights.

The ones that were older were even sent to concentration camps were Franco sent people to please Hitler as collaborators, while the Spanish right claims that Franco "remained neutral".

And I have to hear that I must not hate neither the right nor Catholicism because "that's authoritarian" or its "bigotry against Christianity" and similar nonsense.

The only reason not to punch a fucking nazi is because they could harm you or the police work hand in hand and will know who you are and where you live or something. If you know you won't have this repercussions or simply don't give a fuck, kicking their ass is the moral thing to do, and liberals can suck your ass.

And of course, when was the last time you heard a liberal say that "punching tankies is bad"? Because I NEVER heard them claiming that we also have free speech and all that nonsense they cry when a Nazi gets what it deserves.

It works exactly like a fucking religion, for fuck's sake...