@tekato Sure you can use a third party app, but X without ANY app re-directs to whatever display you want it to. And there are precious few third party apps for Wayland, at least half a dozen that I know of for X.

@tekato That doesn't solve for x2go, rdp, or guacamole, I've got customers using all of those plus vnc.

@Sheldan Yes I am referring to the game, back when I had tried on vmware it was still the main commercial one that I was playing, I have since moved to Insanity Flyff. One of those minor continuities in my life.

@ouch @WhiteOakBayou If you try to remove essential packages, it will not allow you without an extra flag, even as root.

I'm not afraid of change, I just want to ensure change is for the better and that change isn't in a direction we haven't already tried 3000 times always ending in disaster, socialism/communism being a case of the latter, and Wayland being a change that I consider to be the former, it doesn't network and that was the whole point of X windows. It was a NETWORKING window system. If you just need local graphics Wayland is fine but it doesn't fit my use case.

@Magister @WhiteOakBayou There are a lot of things to like about MX, nice interface, I really like that you can boot up using either systemd or sys-V, since systemd tends to be a lot faster but also tends to break it makes it really nice to have a sys-v fallback when things do break. Support has been excellent, I've yet to have it take them more than three days to fix anything broken I've reported, contrast that with Ubuntu where if it happens within the next three major releases you're doing good.

To be sure, the base install of debian is a everything and the kitchen sink install. There are MANY package the average person is not going to need.