and if you account for taxation it'll be even less

I think some of the confusion here might be that this comic is specifically referencing booting out bigots and their apologists.

if someone is willing to argue in bad faith (in this case, specifically bigots), there is no reason to listen to that or anything else they have to say since they've shown they are willing to argue in bad faith at all. I also think anyone who is an apologist of them is also not worth listening to because they are in bad faith by proxy.

that being said, it's perfectly okay to have people arguing in good faith while coming to different conclusions. there can be disagreement and that is healthy as you've said.

they technically could do this by representing ads with posts.

I think you're still right though. regardless of the situation with HP, he still created a company that, when sold, made him a billionaire. I don't think that is possible without also exploiting people.

we probably need to transition to bringing our own reusable packaging/bottling for that stuff.

that's fair, translating down is a good idea

not that i don't think you could ask about them here, but there are a number of self host communities that you should check out, here are two of the bigger ones:

!selfhosted@lemmy.world !selfhost@lemmy.ml

i learned about GNU Taler the other day from one of the OS communities

Facebook could just create fake users that post ads as content

Not quite what you're asking for, but during WW2 the US employed Navajo speakers to use their language for certain verbal communications because it was so different from popular languages and hard to decipher. There's a lot written about them out there. I would also recommend checking out The Code Book by Simon Singh, it's a great recap of the history of secret codes and breaking them.

my take is white-washing. if they actually wanted to make a change, they could stop selling plastic bottles at any time.

would it help to curl down the source html and scripts? I'm no professional at dealing with malicious code, but i would definitely recommend doing it inside a clean VM or docker container or something