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Israeli forces shoot US citizen in occupied West Bank
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Any word on the 200,000 civilians killed by Israel in Gaza?
Any word on the 6 million excess deaths caused by the US occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan?
The hundreds of millions killed by capitalism?
Those are grossly fabricated numbers. The best estimates are between 35-40 thousand, which is tragic enough. There is no need to inflate that by an order of magnitude. There is no reliable information on how many of those were Hamas fighters. Israel claims that it is "half" for those killed, so that is almost certainly the upper bound.
The Lancet is a peer reviewed medical journal not an IDF propaganda outlet. If israel believes the true count is lower they should let journalists and UN workers in to confirm it.
40K is the amount of people confirmed killed. Counting has also stalled a lot after israel targeted health workers responsible for the counting.
The Lancet reports as of June:
Based on past conflicts, they estimate that the "indirect deaths" could ultimately end up being "up to 186 000." 4
Yes, that's what happens when you use starvation and disease as weapons of war and cut off all access to the outside world for independent verification; you end up with estimates of deaths resulting from the conditions inflicted.
They just killed at least 100 people by bombing a school since you commented this. Why are you so eager to minimize the genocide?
Why are you so eager to distort facts? I'm quoting from an international academic report led by a Palestinian researcher. You should consider why it upsets you that their conclusions are not gruesome enough for you.
The quotes don't support your claim of 35-40k being the realistic upper estimates. Your intellectual dishonesty and moral inconsistency is what upsets me.
The study specifically says that the reported death toll of 37k is credible, and has been accepted as such by international bodies. That is the number of people who have died in Gaza, according to our best knowledge. We have no reason to believe that the number is significantly different, or as the study puts it, "claims of data fabrication [are] implausible."
Last I checked, 37 is between 35 and 40.
The study projects that the indirect death toll could eventually total much more, which would be just as tragic. This is why it is so important to release the hostages, end the conflict, and begin rebuilding the infrastructure of Gaza as soon as possible.
I only mentioned the upper bound of "half" of the deaths being combatants because there does not seem to be much agreement about how many of those killed were combatants vs civilians. In other words, at least half of those killed are civilians, likely far more. I'm not sure I can be more clear, but let me know if I can explain any of these facts further.
Turns out when israel starves and poisons Palestinains in a concentration camp they die.
The official number was at 30k only 2 months in and that was only the names confirmed by a medical system already at the brink. Do you genuinely believe it only rose by 5-10k in subsequent 8 months of unrelenting assault? US doctors said that they have compelling reason to believe the death toll is 90k+ based on their time treating the wounded there. Another estimate is at 180k published in a medical journal as previously mentioned. Hamas were estimated to number around 30k before the conflict began (About 1k were killed inside Israel after Oct 7 and were not counted in the death toll) and they are still capable of fighting in most areas of Gaza according to recent reports.