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“Doubts grow” implies that anybody believed it in the first place. I don’t doubt that the administration preferred a ceasefire, but Netanyahu has pretty much no incentive to even try for one. If anything, his motivation would be to keep stringing along the current administration and make the war as bloody and nasty as possible, since that will peal away support for Harris. If Trump wins, he doesn’t have to worry about getting nagged anymore, he may even get increased support from Trump and carte blanche to go all out.
If this current administration preferred a ceasefire, why send the 2000lb bombs? Complete head-scratcher there
I don't know the answer, but I'd imagine geopolitical ramifications are a big part, and that it's more complicated that us civilians without top secret clearance know. Maybe I'm wrong and it's as easy as saying no, but I doubt it. I'd like if they did though.
I don’t buy the whole deep state idea, but I suppose anything is possible. I enjoy a good conspiracy shitpost now & then. This issue feels much more Occam’s razor than 4-D chess. I mean with 40000 already counted dead it’s pretty disgusting to have to try to justify. You’re just creating more radicalized people with these actions.
I'm not trying to suggest there's some deep state fuckery at play. I'm just saying that I think the situation is not black and white and there are more pieces to the puzzle than we are privy to.
Again, I would love if we stopped supplying weapons. I left my last job in manufacturing partly because we were making parts that were going into bombs that were ending up in Israel. That's not a fun thing to have on your conscience all of the time.
There is plenty of gray area in anything. This seems pretty cut & dry. This is has not been self defense, it has been nothing but escalation. The campaign to justify it rings hollow.
I understand and agree, but there are a lot of national secrets traded between Israel and the US amongst probably countless other national interests that we are unaware about that may be important to consider. If the cutting of "defense" support somehow compromises national security, then it might be less bad to begrudgingly supply. I'm not saying that's the case, but that's a plausible argument given the scale of geopolitics.
Because Israel has nukes and a 2000lb bomb is a fuck of a lot better than just glassing the entire area or using them against Iran who would 100% invade if the US were to withdraw support.
It's almost like global politics, especially when talking about the Middle East and nuclear powers is really fucking complicated.
Israel can already defend itself. Those bombs and continued aid were, and are not required. They are being used to escalate, it’s really not that complicated.
The threat of nuclear war is old hat