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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That is not TOS. That is a person like Elon's idea of TOS. I grew up on TOS before any other Star Trek existed. It helped shape my values- made me cherish ideas like inclusion and diversity and equality. It also helped teach me to talk things out rather than just come in guns blazing.

Yes, there was a cowboy element to TOS considering Gene sold it to executives as "Wagon Train to the stars," but it doesn't have the typical morality of a Western. At all.

In fact, if you want to talk specifically about indigenous Americans, the episode The Paradise Syndrome had a far more positive view of them than pretty much anything else on TV at the time.

[-] CeruleanRuin 18 points 3 months ago

For real, that's SNL Star Trek. The surface parody of the show based solely on a handful of Kirk's more outrageous exploits. Real Trek fans know that Kirk was a total nerd who read classic literature and studied old Earth history for fun.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

People (Elon) see what they want to see.

Cowboy in this sense is not a good thing. It's the do whatever the fuck I want to thing.

cowboy /kou′boi″/

A reckless person, such as a driver, pilot, or manager, who ignores potential risks.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Kirk was absolutely not about "I'll do whatever I want to." If anything, he was less like that than Picard. He was much more by-the-book even though he had a reputation as a maverick. But he was overall pretty strict about adhering to Starfleet regulations.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago
[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

of course THEN, we get to the next layer, which is that Spock is the dude who told the Vulcan Science Academy to fuck itself, while Riker plays the trombone.

Hahaha, the Federation is indeed a confusing place.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Bub, trek was revolutionary for its time, and in some parts still is. But it is going to age as we advance, and that's not a bad thing - we want to progress to and past that

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Okay? The person I responded to is still wrong about TOS.

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