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US agrees to withdraw all forces from Iraq by end of 2026: Report
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I feel strangely about this. On one hand, this is exactly what we wanted from america. On the other, Iraq in its current state is no less than an Iranian satrapy, and the tentacles of the persian state and economy will continue to suck the country dry after America’s exit.
Motherfuck George Bush and the State department and motherfuck Iran.
As a supporter of the Iranian opposition, I'd like to correct you about this description. The Islamic Republic have nothing to do with Persian ethnicity or Iranian nationality. Only 50%-60% of Iranians are Persian, it's a very ethnically and culturally diverse nation. The Islamic Republic is a theocracy that oppresses the people of Iran. They destroy secularism and minority cultures in favor of Shia-style Islamization.
What would you estimate as the percentage of the population who are pro-theocracy?
I've heard different answers to this question. Conducting a poll is obviously a hard task to pull of in an authoritarian country, considering the censorship by the state.
A quick search got me to this poll: Article, Archive
So the answer would be that only 15% of the population are pro-theocracy.
Thanks, that's good news. I don't know much about Iran since the Islamic period but it's truly a shame to see one of the greatest nations of history reduced to what it is today. At least there's a rough framework of democracy that can hopefully be built upon once the current regime is finally gone.
Historically, that depends if the US is threatening to invade them or not.
Upvoted for correct use of ‘satrapy’.
I had thought I never had to hear John Yoo's fucking name again, then, shocker, he's in Trumpland arguing for Executive Supremacy.
Gee, of course the legal architect of Bush's war crime torture program is all on board with Trump being an untouchable Executive.
It'll be interesting to see how Al-Sadr et co shakes out in the power vacuum by the US withdrawal. And by interesting I mean 'may you live in interesting times' style interesting, not 'this is a nice thing' interesting.
It's more-or-less geographic destiny that Iran and Turkey will become the dominant powers in Western Asia.
They both basically ruled the area for most of history.
The best we (the West) could do is nudge them towards human rights and peace and friendship. For Turkey, that's mostly a done deal.
For Iran, that was exactly what Obama tried to do. And it's also what Iran has been trying to get for the past 25 years.
Iran is inherently on a path towards secularisation and more dovish policies. It's the threat of war by the US and Israel that keeps the defense hawks in power.
Iran, especially, will never fully trust the USA - and for good reason. But they do want better relations with the USA. They just don't want to get burned or bombed.
I get that but you dont understand what the Iranians have done to Iraq. Iraqi domestic industry is almost nonexistant due to flooding of cheap goods from Iran, and Iraqi businesses are often sabotaged by pro iran militias. This type of warfare seeks to make Iraq fully dependant on Iran, something that Saddam, the sadistic fucker that he is, was able to stave off.
The only country that can be blamed for destroying Iraqi industry is the USA. Two decades of war, one decade of sanctions and another decade of war (by Saddam against Iran) sponsored by the USA in the 1980s.
Obviously, Iranian industry will outcompete Iraqi industry at this point in history.
Iraq needs to rebuild and they need outside help.
I'm not gonna defend Iranian war mongering. And neither will I defend Turkish war mongering, or IS, USA or Israeli war mongering.
But the only path forward for Iraq is by making peace with the two power brokers in the region: Turkey and Iran.
And that's what the current government is trying to achieve. The Turkey-Iraq corridor and the new port they are building are going to lay the foundation for their future prosperity.
As for Iran, Iran is desperate for allies. It won't be that difficult to find some mutually beneficial relationship with them.
Not at all. Iraq’s broken economy is due to Bush trying to force Iraqi economy to privatize after 2003. Iraq made a trade deal with Iran that they bragged would be very lucrative for both countries. It’s not warfare like you called it.
you’re right about the first part but still wrong about the second. Iraq’s current government in no way had the interests of the iraqi population at heart.
I wish he would have gotten nailed by one of the shoes the Iraqi reporter threw at him.
Complaining about Iran having too much influence in Iraq is like complaining that the Vatican has too much influence in Ireland.
Iraq is not the same as Iran. While the countries now have close economic ties, Iraqi politicians have bo interest in changing Iraq’s government to copy Iran’s.