Did the "American dream" change over time, or was it just my interpretation of it? (lemm.ee)

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So growing up, I had this idea that the American dream was about that if you put in an honest amount of work, you would be rewarded with a good life. This would mean you would be able to take care of yourself and your family, afford a car and a house. In my view, working one job would probably be enough.

Nowadays, I get the idea that the American dream has become about working your ass off in order to have a chance to become a millionaire. Somehow glorifying “the grind” appears to be a part of it too now.

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[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The American dream has always been a fiction for huge segments of the population.

What we're talking about, technically, is the idea of meritocracy. If you work hard and smart, you should thrive. If you are dumb and lazy, you should flounder.

But that is not at all the case in the United States.

We have smart people working 2 or 3 jobs only to barely stay afloat, and we have morons sitting on mountains of money.

Briefly in our history we had a strong middle class. The Greatest Generation built it, wrestling wealth away from the top 1% with strong unions. Then they handed it over to the Boomers, who pissed it all away, and destroyed the power of organized labor.

Boomers inherited a nice system, but refused to fight to expand it. The 5-day work week, for example, was supposed to be just a stepping stone. The people who originally fought to get it would have never believed we hadn't gotten that number any lower 80 years later.

Boomers allowed the minimum wage to stagnate. They allowed pensions to go extinct. They voted time and again against universal healthcare. They did nothing to stop predatory lending. They did nothing to stop the explosion of tuition prices. They did nothing to make social security viable for future generations.

The stupidity, gullibility, self-entitlement, laziness, greed, hypocrisy, and frankly psychopathic governance of the Boomers has essentially wiped out all the progress that came before them.

They are retaining a death grip on their power, and have used it to give us a choice between a Trump cult, and Democratic party that is virtually indistinguishable from 1980s Republicans.

Oh, and when they found out that they were killing the planet, they just stepped on the gas and killed it faster.

So, yeah, the American Dream, if it ever really existed, is absolutely dead right now.

When the boomers are all gone, the voting power of millennials and gen z might have been able to fix things ... But honestly, we're riding the razor's edge with fascism right now, so it's a coin flip whether or not we'll even have a democracy with which to repair things.

[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Sadly enough the answer right now is to keep voting for the Democratic Party candidates and wait for the Boomers to age out.

If the Republican Party ever escapes its fascist fever dream or a new party takes their place, we should start looking at alternatives to voting Democrat.

PS - my theory about the Boomers is that lead poisoning brain damage explains most of their bullshit.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

PS - my theory about the Boomers is that lead poisoning brain damage explains most of their bullshit.

An episode of Last Podcast on the Left advanced a similar idea regarding serial killers.

Sure, we know the new highway system enabled travel that enabled serial killers. Sure, we know the improved investigative techniques and technology make it harder to get away with serial murder. But I couldn't dismiss their take that serial killing was at its height in the 70s and 80s (and early 90s) and that leaded gas also fits nicely into that timeline.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump both illustrated that radically changing the Overton window is best done from within the established parties.

Bernie pulled the Democrats pretty far to the right of where they were, even in defeat.

And Trump ... Well, I mean, he transformed his party into a cult.

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