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[-] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 1 day ago

OP has just replaced "Israel" with Palestine, they are using that entire area.

[-] spacesatan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's why its weird. Stripping israel of their veganism rate and giving it to Palestine like it's an award they don't deserve. It's irrelevant to the genocide and misleading when it's clearly the israeli nation that has the high veganism rate even if you don't recognize the legitimacy of their government.

[-] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 0 points 1 day ago

How is it irrelevant? I do not recognise "Israel"'s right to exist. I do not even recognise them as a nation. That is the general stance of this entire instance as well. They are Occupied Palestinian territory, that's all. It is not about "giving Israel's veganism rate to Palestine" it is about recognising the territory as being Palestinian.

[-] spacesatan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't recognize them as a legitimate country but they're undeniably a nation. If you ask the vegans there almost none of them would self identify as Palestinian.

[-] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 1 day ago

undeniably a nation

A nation is defined by four characteristics:

  1. Population - A settled population
  2. Territory - A defined territory
  3. Government - A government
  4. Ability to relate to other states - The ability to conduct relations with other states on a sovereign basis

Israel does not have a defined territory. Their borders have never been officially established. Using guidelines used by the UN they are not a nation.

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