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2nd-ever nitrogen gas execution in US set to take place in Alabama
(abcnews.go.com)
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Would love it if we just stopped the government sanctioned murders.
That's why governments exist - for societal sanctioned killing. And you will never get away from that.
The rest of the modern world enters the chat.
War enters the chat.
What is an army?
the state as an entity exists to prevent the outbreak of class war, it regularly does this violently, and people are often killed without the need for the death penalty.
You should read Lenin's State and Revolution, at least the first chapter
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/
Power structures are indeed partly designed and in practice used by upper classes, and especially the owner class to keep their wealth and maintain the hierarchy that is beneficial to them. And this ended up being the case even in the Soviet Union.
It’s probably an oversimplification to say that is their sole purpose, but I understand why it is said that way to get the point across.
An interesting modern example of state sanctioned killing that occurs in nations that don’t necessarily have an army or legal executions. Is in some countries with lax euthanasia/assisted dying laws. Poor people who become unable to work due to disability, are often financially pressured to kill themselves through the official routes, as it can be hard or nearly impossible to survive solely on disability benefits.
Governments don’t really have much pressure to improve the situation, as it saves them, and by extension the upper classes, money. And the dead people don’t have votes to punish them with.
Maybe if we stopped seeking retribution, and seek solutions, we can get past this point. That includes punishing the poor for a system created by those who hoard resources, creating conditions of despair. If people are terminally ill and suffering, there's no reason to deny humane euthsnsia, but writing laws that won't be abused and codified via Congress will be messy.
Everyone has an army.
Their own or someone elses.
Kind of negates civilized. Because defensive war wouldn't be necessary if everyone were civilized and didn't treat others as less than.
And if pigs had wings they could fly.
Aint going to happen as long as psycopaths like for example putin can get in power.
I knew someone would bring this up. There's some question if Russians in certain regions were being treated in a civilized manner.
Sure, but up until and including today, we need a strong power to project kindness.
It would be nice though ofc.
Human animals who murder other animals for food get to keep doing it —> murderers get to die for a good cause. Everyone’s happy!
mmmm prions
You remind me of the time I was marching to protest the Iraq war in Los Angeles and, as the procession of thousands walked by, there was a guy on the sidelines with a bullhorn yelling, "HOW CAN YOU BE AGAINST WAR IF YOU'RE OKAY EATING ANIMALS?"
I'm guessing the number of people he converted to veganism after that was similar to the, I am guessing, zero people you converted to veganism with your comment.
Read the room, buddy.
I’m not vegan. Just pointing out the obvious.
War is bad because it consigns millions of innocent creatures to death and suffering.
Factory farming is bad because it consigns BILLIONS of innocent creatures to death and suffering per year.
How do you wrap your tiny morally imbecilic mind around the former but not the latter?
See above.
Sounds like Soylent Green with less steps. I'd prefer not giving wealthy industrialists more ideas.
First time I've heard veganism used to justify the death penalty.
And cannibalism!
Also not veganism
Eating meat is the opposite of veganism, fyi
Also, I’m not vegan.
I can be against more than one thing.
I think I can add government sanctioned prion disease to that list.
Are you okay?
I’m trying to help meat eaters out of their dilemma. They murder innocent animals but complain about killing evil animals. They eat the former but not the latter.
Ah. I see the problems: A. Wrong place 2. Wrong time D. Wrong method
I’m not vegan, by the way. I just find hypocrisy kind of gross.
80 billion land animals and 200 trillion sea animals
Yeah, but most of the sea animals deserve to be eaten. Trust me, I'm a squid. Fuck those guys, they're a bunch of Nazis. You ever read the literature flounders put out? It's some ugly, ugly stuff.
Also, did you know that oysters are pearl-hoarders? Do you think they ever pay taxes on those pearls?