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[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago

A civilization capable of interstellar imperialism* would be focused on long-term exploitation of less primitive societies, so they would probably manage us better than the current elites do. A more educated, healthy worker is simply more productive than the alternative, especially in the long term.

  • unless it is some kind of swarm of space locusts that just devour everything in their path.
[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

I know aliens haven't found this planet because Musk is still alive, and he's a threat to their goals.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 day ago

Or they would manage us to their own desires. I wouldn't say imperialism of conquered peoples went well for people on Earth.

Hell, there are several noted cases of deindustrialization, like the British Raj in India, where the imperial power pushed a civilization back into resource extraction. Why would an alien civilization colonize us for anything other than natural resources?

And there are several examples where humans weren't treated well in a resource extraction economy. Sugarcane plantations in the Caribbean were where slaves went to die.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago

Why would an alien civilization colonize us for anything other than natural resources?

Space is full of mineral resources, going to a random planet with a relatively high gravity well just for some rocks would be counter productive. And an advanced civilization would probably use a lot of automation for resource extraction.

And there are several examples where humans weren't treated well in a resource extraction economy. Sugarcane plantations in the Caribbean were where slaves went to die.

That part is true. But the question is what could the aliens get from us that couldn't be made for cheaper closer to their planet?

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)
[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 20 hours ago

It doesn't have to be mineral wealth. It could be biological in nature, like cash crop farming.

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Eh, natural resources are far easier to extract from asteroids and moons than to haul out the gravity well of the biggest rocky planet in the area. And they wouldn't have to mess with the nasty apes for any of them.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago

The only interesting thing on earth is life itself, as well as intelligent life and its culture. Literally everything else can be found everywhere else

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 20 hours ago

Resource extraction includes farming.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

Why would they farm on alien soil? That sounds like a terrible idea. Just make space bases dedicated for farming

No, they'd just use earth for scientific reasons, exploring and cataloguing our life. And perhaps maybe for artistic/cultural reasons, enrichment basically

[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Escaping the gravity well is difficult for us. They can travel who knows how far or how fast. The gravity might be of little importance to them.

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Regardless, there are far more resources much easier to obtain in deep space than we have down here. That doesn't change even if gravity is less of an obstacle to them.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago

I would find it more likely that they wipe us out to make way for colonizers of their own. They probably have no use for us, save maybe a couple to keep on display in a captive breeding program. They would likely have the technology to perform any work we could, but better and faster.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

A civilisation that can travel between stars will probably see us as we see bugs. If we are annoying they destroy us, if we don't bother them, they won't care about us. We think we have some merit and knowledge and that we are special to be interesting to higher species, how often do you wish to uplift, enslave or destroy ants?

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Don’t think about how the average person acts towards insects, think about how a farmer does. Plow the field, plant crops, fertilize, spray pesticides.

An alien civilization far in advance of our own which has travelled the stars and colonized millions of planets would just scour all life from the planet (while perhaps sucking up the genetic information into a database) and then reform the biosphere to suit their own needs, siphoning up all the mineral and energy resources they need as well.

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