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Scientists warn of 'societal collapse' on Earth with worsening climate situation (www.irishstar.com)

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[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah, it's true diesel degrades quickly, but oil does not. Depending on where you live, you could more quickly set up a low scale refinery than a solar panel manufacturing workshop. Most likely, people would use coal in most places without access to oil in short distance since it's more widely available and simpler to use.

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

Mate, we are talking about a societal collapse. You won't have oil available and you won't be able to refine your own diesel at home (especially without energy).

Your argument about solar panels being difficult to produce is utterly out of place. Your diesel generator and your car are more difficult to produce, but you already own them from before the downfall. So if you own an EV and you own solar panels then it doesn't matter how difficult those are to produce when you're just using them.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Gas only lasts like 6 months before expiring. It can be stabilized to last a couple of years, but within 3-5 years all existing gas would be unusable (as far as I understand it).

Running a solar system past its ideal life when it holds even 20% of a charge and has lower efficiency is better than nothing.

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