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"But Rachel also has another hobby, one that makes her a bit different from the other moms in her Texas suburb—not that she talks about it with them. Once a month or so, after she and her husband put the kids to bed, Rachel texts her in-laws—who live just down the street—to make sure they’re home and available in the event of an emergency.

"And then, Rachel takes a generous dose of magic mushrooms, or sometimes MDMA, and—there’s really no other way to say this— spends the next several hours tripping balls."

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's nothing that would satisfy your criteria for the "source". I've literally pasted the DOI number of the study that the numbers are from. You're sealioning, just like I said.

I'm quoting the study where the numbers are from, and I still haven't mentioned any "cannabis overdoses". It literally says “Mortality is defined as risk of lethal overdose (drug-specific), OR BY life shortened by factors other than overdose (drug-related)”

This means that the "mortality" bit of the chart isn't even implying that cannabis has directly caused someone's death. Not even remotely has anyone implied that, yet it's all you keep going on about, while ignoring the facts.

We know where the numbers are from. First off, we have the actual study, go ahead and read it. Secondly, (AND THIS IS THE PART YOU KEEP IGNORING), do you disagree with the following facts; first that smoking is a popular way of using cannabis and secondly that smoking causes cancer?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

There’s nothing that would satisfy your criteria for the “source”.

Aside from an actual source of actual mortality numbers, which I asked for. And yes, I looked up the links you pasted, which you did not. None of them give the source either, other than Nutt.

All of this comes from this Nutt, who is apparently aptly named, because he's apparently just making shit up. And you just accept it for no apparent reason other than you want people to die from cannabis.

First off, we have the actual study, go ahead and read it.

I read your links. You clearly did not. In fact, you pasted them within minutes of my responses so you didn't even have time to. It's pretty silly to tell someone to read links you haven't read as if they prove your point.

do you disagree with the following facts; first that smoking is a popular way of using cannabis and secondly that smoking causes cancer?

We'll discuss this as soon as you acknowledge that there is no legitimate source for the death information in the chart you gave. It all comes from one guy who just doesn't like cannabis rather than any sort of actual medical information.

Edit: If you are going to lie and claim you read all of that, I think this part of the conversation where you didn't realize the chart had mortality information and told me to read the chart to see that there isn't any when there is shows quite clearly that you don't read the information you provide very carefully:

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

I think this part of the conversation where you didn't realize the chart had mortality information and told me to read the chart to see that there isn't any

Well, when you revise history and change what you said originally it'll come across that way, yeah

As you can see in your own fucking picture there: you originally kept asking who cannabis was killing, which isn't on the chart mortality is, but that goes beyond direct killings, which has been their entire goddamn point

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Sorry... you think mortality from a drug is different from being killed by a drug? What?

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

You just pay 0 attention to what people clearly and concisely explain to you, dontcha squid?

Drug mortality is defined as any contributory cause-of-death that involved one or more of the following drugs:

And then it lists off shit like meth, coke, anti depressants, etc. as you can see, I've bolded the relevant part

You originally said "who got killed by weed", which is different entirely. Nobody has died of smoking weed (that I know of), people HAVE died because they were high (that's a mortality)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

So the mortality for cannabis doesn't apply to people who just use cannabis and it has no indication of what other drugs they might have used?

That is beyond useless information. That tells you absolutely nothing. Your chart is garbage.

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