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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

If they're actually telling the truth about 'precise military targets,' and I'm not confident of that, this is not as bad as I had feared.

Not good, but not as bad as I had feared, which was a much more massive retaliation.

Now we just have to hope things don't keep escalating.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 18 points 4 hours ago

The genocide in Gaza and the invasion in Lebanon were "limited ground incursions" so I don't trust Israels wording here either.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

Like I said, I'm not confident of that. But I'm not confident of anything Iran says either. I don't trust Israel and I don't trust Iran. Neither government has given me reason to.

I wonder if we will ever find out the truth about anything either of them have done so far in this particular recent conflict they're involved in with each other.

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

At least for now, it looks like Iran is downplaying the attacks, which is a good sign for de-escalation.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

Iran made it clear that if the attack was contained, than they would let it be. If not, then they retaliate.

If they do intend to retaliate, I don't expect it happening before the election. They know these kinds of things help Trump and the last thing they want is a Trump presidency.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

My problem is that I don't trust Israel's claim that this was precise and I also don't trust Iran's claim that if it is contained, they won't retaliate.

Because I don't trust either government at all.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Trust them to serve their own self interests.

Israel's interest is escalating and prolonging the conflict to grab more land and kill more Arabs and Persians.

Iran's interest is de-escalation since they're in no shape to fight a war with Israel, and the US.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

You could be right in general, but you should know that Iranians are not Arabs and they hate being mistaken for Arabs.

http://www.us-iran.org/resources/2016/10/21/myth-vs-fact-persians-and-arabs

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Forgot about that lol, thanks for reminding me. I've edited my comment.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don't think they said they would not retaliate against a limited attack though that might end up being the case depending on the nature and scale of the damages.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

They did say it.

If Israeli strikes — a response to a barrage of missiles from Iran earlier this month — inflict widespread damage and high casualties, they said, Iran will retaliate. But if Israel limits its attack to a few military bases and warehouses storing missiles and drones, Iran might well do nothing.

The officials said Ayatollah Khamenei had directed that a response would be certain if Israel strikes oil and energy infrastructure or nuclear facilities, or if it assassinates senior officials.

They made the terms clear. Now we see if Israel abides by them. My guess is no.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Different statements were made in the past month:

Iran's General Staff of the Armed Forces said in a statement carried by state media that any Israeli response would be met with "vast destruction" of Israeli infrastructure.

I believe the Iranian ambassador said something of the same vein at the UN security council meeting as well. Either way I still agree that they likely wont respond to this type of limited strike as things currently stand.

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