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I socially transitioned before I started hormones, and when I went out in public wearing women's clothes, people would look at me frequently, and some people would stare at me. It was obvious I didn't pass from these kinds of responses, but I also got somewhat used to that treatment.

Over time, with hormone therapy, I get fewer and fewer instances of this. I haven't been stared at in a long time, and I think people look at me less.

At one point I would describe my experience as being a "woman shaped object" - in people's peripheral vision I looked like a normal woman, but if someone interacted with me they could tell I was trans.

I went out yesterday and got my nails done, went shopping, went out for dinner, etc. and interactions with people made me think they couldn't tell I was trans, but I just don't know whether they can actually tell or not.

While waiting in line to buy some clothes, a woman wanted to chat about how long the line was taking, and she interacted with me as though I were a normal woman - there wasn't a hint of stigma, curiosity, etc.

Anyway - this just makes me wonder: what are others' experiences with passing and not-passing, what are little clues that you aren't passing or when you are?

I assume you just can't actually tell when people are being polite vs not knowing, but maybe there are little hints.

Thanks!

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 5 days ago

You know you're passing when Republicans treat you like a sex object and stop listening to anything you say /hj

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago

honestly, when I was getting my nails done, a dude walked up and got way too close, took his sandals off bumping into my shoes, etc. - I am not used to people violating my personal space that way and being so impolite about my belongings, so I think that might have been gendered, i.e. maybe he felt he could take my space because he was a man? surreal experience tbh

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Congratulations, that means you pass. Bad news, that means you pass. Yeah some men think they can treat women however they please especially considering recent events (see "your body my choice" incels).

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 days ago

He seemed really sweet and polite when he was talking to his nail tech, so that added to the surrealism for me.

This, for real though. You can often tell you've made it when people stop treating you specially.

By way of analogy: I live in a non-English-speaking part of the world, and was very self-conscious about my language ability. To begin with, everyone told me "you speak very well" (with an implied "for a foreigner"), but after a lot of practice that finally gave way to a curt "that's wrong" whenever I slipped up. Now people generally assume I was born here to immigrant parents.

Gender-wise (although I'm nowhere near female-passing yet), I guess things like double-takes in bathrooms, or people being "gentlemanly" are good things to look out for?

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