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[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

The funny thing about immigration is that it turns out I don't need to research every single 'might be good, might be bad' country out there. I only needed to find a single country that had lenient immigration laws and would be accepting of me. Australia was that country for me, though it has it's own issues as all countries do. Personally, I don't think I should need to have some degree in foreign politics to be able to decide which countries would/wouldn't be welcoming to me. If anything, if Canada has some massive propaganda problem where all searchable metrics (58% Trudeau disapproval ratings, 58% think too much immigration, 41% anxious immigrant rights get too much attention), then perhaps "too much propaganda" is yet another reason to avoid Canada.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why you're talking if you already have all the answers buddy.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They got their impression of Canada from reddit

[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Genuinely, where do you think I should get my impression of Canada from? Perhaps this Lemmy instance, where the prevailing response to me going: 'hey, Canada has a lot of hatred towards immigrants, as a victim of a fascist government forced to flee my home country I decided to search elsewhere' was 'um, ACTUALLY, the place you have chosen to go to ALSO hates PEOPLE LIKE YOU, and you (the victim of a fascist government trying to kill you for being a minority) should've DONE YOUR RESEARCH(??) because Canada ALSO HAS A MASSIVE PROPAGANDA PROBLEM which is why you should COME TO CANADA INSTEAD'

Frankly, I fear all I have learned from this is that Canadians, unlike the stereotype, are deeply unempathetic people who currently seem to be pushing a narrative of "Canada good, America (and Americans) bad." Hence the claims I've seen on Lemmy that 'Americans deserve to suffer under fascism' because 'we didn't work/vote/volunteer hard enough to stop it.'

In this case, America = Bad bc American doctors (smart) are leaving. Canada = Good bc American doctors want to go there. So, under this framing, me criticizing Canadian attitudes against immigration somehow becomes me (stupid American) hating on Canada as a whole. Queue the dogpiling about how I'm an 'uninformed idiot' and I've 'bought the propaganda' despite the fact I've been researching how to immigrate for the past few months

Forgive me if this came out a bit hostile, I'm a bit frustrated right now, you know, from the whole 'fleeing my country that wants to genocide me' thing. As a warning, I'd be wary of dismissing the blatantly nationalistic attitudes of your fellow countrymen as "oh that's just how Canadians on Reddit behave." After all, glossing over just how many fascists my country had was what got us Trump.

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