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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Sounds like propaganda got to you. Maybe don't make big life decisions if you "don't know much" about a topic? Educating yourself is free, just hard to do if your source of education is "post after post".

[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

The funny thing about immigration is that it turns out I don't need to research every single 'might be good, might be bad' country out there. I only needed to find a single country that had lenient immigration laws and would be accepting of me. Australia was that country for me, though it has it's own issues as all countries do. Personally, I don't think I should need to have some degree in foreign politics to be able to decide which countries would/wouldn't be welcoming to me. If anything, if Canada has some massive propaganda problem where all searchable metrics (58% Trudeau disapproval ratings, 58% think too much immigration, 41% anxious immigrant rights get too much attention), then perhaps "too much propaganda" is yet another reason to avoid Canada.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s because Trudeau is wildly unpopular. So unpopular he was finally asked to resign (and agreed to do so) by his own party.

And furthermore if you want to understand the reasons behind anti-immigrant sentiment in Canada you should study our housing policies and issues. Canada is in the midst of a housing crisis which I believe is the main contributor to anti-immigrant sentiment.

Now you might say (and would be fair to do so) that immigrants are not to blame for bad housing policy. That is true, however it’s entirely fair for Trudeau to receive his share of the blame for the housing crisis, especially given his many promises to address the issue.

And if you’re wondering about Australia: its housing crisis is as bad or worse than Canada’s. Anti-immigration sentiment and far-right politics is even more prevalent there.

[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm well aware of the Australian housing crisis, and of it's far-right politicians like Dutton. I was also aware that there were other reasons for Trudeau being unpopular besides immigration (hence why it wasn't the sole statistic I provided, I used Trudeau's approval ratings as somewhat of a general metric for Canada turning against left-leaning politicians, and I used the other two statistics to try to show Canada's anti-immigrant attitudes. Without spending exorbitant amounts of time studying Canadian politics this was the quickest summary statistics I choose to look at).

I criticized Canada for having poor attitudes towards immigration, and I would criticize Australia for the same, these two opinions aren't mutually exclusive. Ultimately my personal decision to attempt to immigrate to Australia rather than Canada came down to choosing 'the lesser of two evils' (which as an American I am very practiced in doing. ha. ha.)

Specifically, I thought Australia's further distance from the US would make it safer geopolitically, it's higher foreign-born population would make it so that way 'anti-immigration' sentiment didn't become 'anti-immigrant' sentiment, and it's compulsory voting laws would make it harder for far-right politicians to gain and/or maintain a foothold. I truly did not intend for my personal decision to go to Australia over Canada to be some kind of dig at Canada, though I did get defensive at the dismissive claim that the limited research I have done was just "propaganda getting to me." Apologies if I was a bit aggressive in my critique of Canadian attitudes towards immigration

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

See as a Canadian I wouldn’t make it so complicated. The reason I would move to Australia is very simple: the weather.

But then I have a giant hole in my living room ceiling because all the winter storms this year caused a giant glacier of ice to build up on the roof which subsequently melted and leaked through the roof, destroying the ceiling in the process. Furthermore, this apparently happened to tons of other people in my area because the insurance company is currently swamped with claims over this.

Australia doesn’t have to deal with any of this. Australia has cheap and highly accessible solar power. Australia has beautiful weather 8 months of the year in exchange for blistering summers. I think I’d take that trade at this point!

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