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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 63 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Meh. Only suckers give a shit about the “generosity” of billionaires. Tax them. Tax them down to millionaire status. Why should they dictate what programs get funded? It’s never worked before.. it’s not suddenly going to start now.

I mean, your own tumblr link is proof of that. After all, Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole, isn’t it? Clearly Bruce Wayne doesn’t know what Gotham actually needs.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you think removing the main plot device is the way to go for Batman stories?

Not necessarily disagreeing with you in the real world. But what do you expect from fiction?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

At the end of the day it's all propaganda. Yes, I think the best version of propaganda about how to deal with the wealthy would do this, and show how it's more effective. I don't think creating media about how we should rely on billionaires to solve our problems out of their own good will is a good idea.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's funny that in Judge Dredd the city changes as the story goes on, with political change, without waiting for Dredd to change things.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck me. Do you think making a comic about helping the poor and saving others in the 30's was propaganda? Think about it.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think Captain America wasn't? All media is to some extent.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Must feel like shit to think everything ever created comes from malice. Malice is implied when you say propaganda.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Malice is not implied by propaganda. What are you talking about? Propaganda is material trying to make you think a certain way. That can be good or bad.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If almost all propaganda is attempting to sway knowledge to the negative, then it is negative. Ipso facto

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who said most was swaying to the negative?

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Try finding a source for propagada that isn't. I know "technically" the term i supposed to be neutral. But it isn't

Direct translation from the Ministry of psychological defense mpf.se

"What is propaganda?

The concept of propaganda is inherently neutral and can be used in both a positive and negative sense, although we usually talk about it as the latter."

I trust their analysis about the discussion about propaganda leaning towards negativity. And if the term shifts, as languages do, i'd say propaganda is a negative term by sheer numbers.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole

In most continuities, Gotham is literally supernaturally cursed, often in multiple different ways

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am convinced that someone at some point in the DC universe timeline decided to make a shithole sink just to see what happens, Gotham was the end result. Shame it somehow became multi dimensional.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Points for talking about real issues but also this is a pretend fantasy billionaire we're talking about

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

better yet, fundamentally remove their power to rise again and build a system where money is not equal to power.

[–] alp@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

In Turkey, our taxes are going to other billionaires anyway...